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Baseball final forfeited because of girl at second base
The Arizona Charter Athletic Association state championship baseball game wasn't played Thursday night because Mesa Prep's second baseman is a girl.
Paige Sultzbach, a freshman, is playing baseball because her high school doesn't offer girls softball. But the school Mesa Prep was to face in the final, Our Lady of Sorrows Academy, said its boys would not compete against a team with a girl and forfeited the game - and the state title - to Mesa Prep.
"As a Catholic school, we promote the ideal of forming and educating boys and girls separately during the adolescent years, especially in physical education,” Our Lady of Sorrows said in a statement, according to CNN affiliate KTVK.
“It takes tremendous moral courage to stand by what it is you believe, and they are doing what they think is right,” Mesa Prep Headmaster Robert Wagner told KTVK.
But Sultzbach's mother, Pamela Sultzbach, said her daughter and the Mesa Prep team were being done a disservice.
"This is not a contact sport. It shouldn't be an issue. It wasn't that they were afraid they were going to hurt or injure her, it's that (they believe) that a girl's place is not on a field," Pamela Sultzbach told the Arizona Republic.
"I respect their views, but it's a bit out of the 18th century," Amy Arnold, Mesa Prep's athletic director, told the Republic.
Mesa Prep and Our Lady of Sorrows played twice during the regular season, but Sultzbach sat out, as they were away games for her team.
“It was on their field, and I felt the need to respect their rules,” she told KTVK.
The final would have been on a neutral field, and Sultzbach wanted to play.
Now, despite being hailed as state champions, Mesa Prep will feel like they've missed something, Pamela Sultzbach said.
"This team has worked so hard," she said. "They're undefeated. They had one game left. At our school, we're taught that when you start something, you complete it, and they weren't done."
Having attended Catholic school K-12, I completely agree with Dave. All the following are from one high school within a span of 4 years: 1) Two gay/pedo priests who were finally removed and activities/incidents hushed. 2) Four lesbian/pedo nuns who positively known to prey on teenage girls, and two of which eventually left and "lived" together. The other two were removed and their activities were also hushed. 3) The principal, who was a priest, got a nun pregnant. Both left the church and married. 4) A priest caught in flagrante delicto in the true Latin sense. Not just red handed if you get my meaning, but in a criminal way. Yep, these are the people who shape your kids in Catholic school with ridiculous sanctimonious ideals.
"Yep, these are the people who shape your kids in Catholic school with ridiculous sanctimonious ideals." Be fair; most of them are good people. Schools are a magnet for offenders and a torture for repressed people; many who start out with high ideals end up not being able to resist a flirty young person. But there's a reason priests have a bad rep with young boys.
The kids from Our Lady of Sorrows can explain it all later in life as: "I do not recall the incident, but we all did a lot of stupid things in high school.
"explain it all later in life as: "I do not recall the incident, but we all did a lot of stupid things in high school."
"I wasn't sure of the exact orientation of the person, but I believed it to be a girl."
"It takes tremendous moral courage to stand by what it is you believe, and they are doing what they think is right"
Nah, it just takes tremendous religious stupidity, but this is a free country so everybody has a right to be stupid in their own unique way 🙂
So I guess a boy should be able to play on a girls' team - why not?
if the school has no baseball team for boys but a softball team for girls then sure why not. read the article. and they didn't forfeit on principle. they had played this same team twice at home and she sat out to show respect to them on their homefield. her team is undefeated. do the math, they already beat this team twice without her. now come championship time they're about to get beaten again and she's going to play because it's not on their field. the respect show was not given. what was given was a craven lie from cowards about to lose the state championship to a team with a girl on it. a team who had beaten them twice without their starter on 2nd base and who was going to beat them even worse with her. they are gutless and she played because there was no girl team offered in her school.
This is the way that it should be, girls and boys should have separate teams
Why?
O I get it. J/K
"girls and boys should have separate teams" So the girls won't beat us? Come on, man, grow a pair.
Just another case of girls sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong. sad
"Just another case of girls sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong. sad" How do you figure that? There was no girl's team at her school. Are you against girls playing sports, or just against them being better at it than guys?
How exactly do you come to that conclusion? They had no equivalent sport for girls at her school so she played what was offered. Maybe you need to come into the 21st century with the rest of us there MIKE.
If the rules allow her to play and she is good enough to play why not let her play.
It does take an illusion of "tremendous moral courage" to be a bigot.
It has nothing to do with bigotry. It has more to do with human nature. The two genders are not equal physically. That is why you'll never see a woman playing men's professional baseball, football, basketball, i.e. Believe me, I've coached baseball for over 25 years of my adult life, (ages 8 to 18). By about the age of 14+, girls simply cannot compete, not because of lack of skills, but because of lack of strength. If that was equal, I and many other coaches would not have a problem with girls playing baseball.
"That is why you'll never see a woman playing men's professional baseball, football, basketball," Sure you will; nothing is absolute. Plenty of female basketball players are the equal of the men. It's more like women have to be physically larger than men to equal some of their performance because they have narrower wrists and shoulders, but plenty of smaller players win by skill. As a coach, would you have forfeited that game?
They just didn't want to lose to a team with a girl!
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. You are correct Brian. Disguised as "moral courage", no less.
That was my thought exactly. Tremedous "moral courage" lololol, more like a tremendous fear of losing to a girl. They can try and spin it however they like, in the end it just seems like the other team got scared.
2012...........
What a shame.
At least she won her team the championship game...
Catholic schools have always been the biggest joke.
Jake, how many times are you going to say the same exact thing??? Cnn said it was Catholic. We get it, already! It's not ROMAN Catholic! Ok, ok!! Not that is makes any stupid diff...the RCC is hopelessly outdated, too!
If her school doesn't field a girl's team and she can play as well as a boy (with absolutely no "handicapping"), then she should be allowed to play.
If there is a girl's team she should play on it and not on the boy's team.
It's a Catholic School, the students have to stand in front of their Coach, who stands in front of the Principal. The Pope stands behind the Vice Cardinal who stands behind the Rear Cardinal who stands behind the Bishop who stands behind the Principal.