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New documents shed light on Trayvon Martin killing
New documents released today shed light on just what might have happened when George Zimmerman fatally shot Trayvon Martin, 17, in Sanford Florida earlier this year.
An autopsy report revealed traces of the drug THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, in Martin's blood at the time of his death - fueling more controversy in the already heavily debated circumstances of the killing.
Meanwhile, three police reports chronicled Zimmerman's injuries, officer's first impressions of the crime scene and claims that he was assaulted in the moments before shooting Martin dead. An EMS report and a lab report were made public describing injuries Zimmerman sustained during the melee.
Also released was an FBI analysis of the controversial 911 call, which caused speculation around the country about Zimmerman's potential use of a racial epithet to described the teen in the hooded sweatshirt.
Zimmerman has plead not guilty in the case, maintaining he shot Martin in self-defense during his shift on a neighborhood watch.
Bond for Zimmerman was originally set at $150,000 on April 20. Zimmerman's bond was revoked on June 1 and he was ordered to return to jail when a judge determined Zimmerman lied about his personal finances. A new bail hearing is sceduled for June 29.
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Witnesses account say one man chased another. Martin's girlfriend said their phone call was ended abruptly. Zimmerman said he was following someone. It doesn't look good for Zimmerman. Chasing someone is cause for someone to defend themselves with violence. In the end, I think it will all depend on the credibility of the witlessness's stories.
Who chased who. You are speculating. I'll agree with the credibility. Martin is the one with a police rap sheet and a school disiplinary problem. He was currently serving a 10 day suspension. If you are talking about events of that night, then Martin was reported to having been seen climbing security fences and prowling.
to Saidso:
outstanding – you are another RARE person, that has obviously studied much of the facts out there.
the facts are out there, for anyone who wants to spend the time to dig it all up.
Under the Governorship of Republican, FL doesn't need police. Everyone with gun can legally kill someone whom "threaten" he/she, under the law of Stand Your Ground, no wonder Republican like Romney was so excited to say,"Take the funds from police, schools, firemen,...I'm very good at this..."
Zimmerman definitely called the police but he was caught by Trayvon on his way back to the car... I don't think sentencing Zimmerman to death will do anything for anyone... it won't bring back Trayvon, it'll just be hurting more people for the sake of revenge for Trayvon.... it wouldn't be Justice for Trayvon, it would be revenge for Travon (there's a difference).
Agreed ... it wad an unfortunate set of events. But it's not murder.
"sentencing Zimmerman to death"? FOR WHAT? The ONLY thing Zimmerman is guilty of is defending himself against an attacking 6'3" hoodie thug that knocked him down and bashed his head repeatedly into concrete. This is what 2 witnesses are reporting and gong to testify to. What EVIDENCE do you have to the contrary?
posted above by: Red Blooded American....
"sentencing Zimmerman to death"? FOR WHAT? The ONLY thing Zimmerman is guilty of is defending himself against an attacking 6'3" hoodie thug that knocked him down and bashed his head repeatedly into concrete. This is what 2 witnesses are reporting and gong to testify to. What EVIDENCE do you have to the contrary? "
again, more inaccuracies...
where is this INFO about 2 witnesses ??
6'3" – no. he was 5' 11"
you have already ACQUITED Zimm in your own mind.
but bash others here, because they have convicted Zimm, intehir own mind.
it's always the ultra conservs, that have that philosophy.
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there are NO witnesses to the "beginning" of the confrontation.
some witness reported seeing some of altercation, but most said was too dark to really see much.
one has changed story from Zimm screaming for help, to it then being Tray.
other witnesses say Zimm on top. other says Tray on top.
the only "winesses" wee all AFTER it was happening.
The rest of this story is B S Zimmerman got out of his car in the parking lot and followed Trayvon between the buildings after Zimmerman told the police Trayvon pulled him out of his car and atacked him first ! then why was Zimmerman so far from his car between the buildings on the grass if Trayvon atacked him first ? but so what if he traces of the drug THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, what does that have to do with Trayvon walking home from the store and ended up dead and we all know Trayvon was not following Zimmerman.
Right! The wording in the autopsy report makes it clear that Zimmerman followed Trayvon, although told not to, and then started a fight. When he got scared, he pulled out the gun and shot Trayvon right in the heart, with intent to kill.
Have you scene the video of Trayvon at the 7-11 before he died. Even the 7-11 guy was jumpy around him (paying and then walking back through the store again).
With all of Zimmermans injuries, the kid having drugs in his system, the result of the medical reports on both Martin and Zimmerman, perhaps Martin was killed as Zimmerman defended himself against provoked agression. No matter what Zimmernam did to provokee Martin, Martin could have walked away but instead it appears he turned on Zimmerman and attacked. If I were in the same situation as Zimmerman was and had a gun, I would have probably unloaded the clip into Martin.
So basically what you are saying is that Martin didn't have the right to stand his ground against the man you've admitted was following and harassing him, but Zimmerman did? What's that smell? A fallacy perhaps? Or just a terrible argument?
You're right, it does take two to tango, so by the same logic, Zimmerman could have done what the police said and not followed Trayvon. Then when he got scared that maybe he would lose in the fight he started, he changed the rules of the game and brought a gun into the picture. Shot to kill, too. Right in the heart. It was none of his business what Trayvon Martin was doing.,
No matter if you had weed in your system, it stays in for weeks. That don't mean he did drug at that time, but we do know he followed a juvenile.
It is as it was, a wanna be thug scoping the neighborhood and got caught by people who wanted to keep their children and property safe from such. Martin got what he should have for the actions he caused. Even the 7-11 people saw Martin acting like a fool in their store before the incident. Zimmerman saved taxpayers money from courts plain and simple.
@db-if someone jumped out of a truck after you, with a gun, please tell us again how you would quietly walk away? Trayvon calmly asked Zimmerman "Why are you following me?" What was Zimmerman's response? How many innocent people would die if the likes of Zimmerman were left to patrol America communities? No one deserves to die because an overzealous neighborhood patrolman used poor judgment.
911 dispatch isn't a cop.......
1. No offensive wounds no Zimmerman only defensive
2. On public property you can follow someone until told stop or once it hits private property
3. 1st amendment rights allows you to stand where you want. If you are assaulted physically the person who threw the first punch is charged with assault... IE Trayvon due to Zimmerman's hands being clean
4. Calling out for help over 20 times ( Witness reports FIRST AND LAST) along with witness #1 stating he demanded trayvon to stop is enough to make clear that you were in a fight for your life and had no other choice but to shoot
5. One bullet was fired.. this can be argued as a NOT TO KILL but to injure... but proven due to autopsy, witness, and physical damage Zimmerman had the right to use deadly force
6. Please read all reports before commenting.. WEED has nothing to do with it due to we all know Trayvon was suspended for weed... that is a red herring for CNN to use to distract you!
Your premise would work except for one tiny minute little detail. It was a privately owned neighborhood and at no point did any of this altercation happen on public property. The HOA had a neighborhood watch team to watch their neighborhood which they declined to allow Zimmerman to join due to his misuse of 911 and his violent past.
What would you do if someone was following you that close for no unknown reason
7. If someone approach you needless at a close distance you do have the right to defend yourself. Let someone walk on me I will not wait for a tackle
It takes true ignorance and shows exactly how weak minded and easily brainwashed you are and can be to believe that trace amounts of THC is equals a junkie. Grow up troll and join the real world with the rest of us
Or how about dont get suspended from school for having weed in the first place. Then this would have never happened???
I guess you also didn't here that prior to this incident Treyvon had been expelled from school because of a drug issue and from my understanding from the report this wasn't his first issue with drugs.
zimmerman is a moiderer...someone shuddah drugscreened him...skittle and tea is the only thing the boy consumed...weed use stays in the body a long time...it is stored in the fat cells...who to say this drug is release from these cells back into the blood stream...the district atty need to hire an pharmacologist to discussed the drug dispositon after death...zimmerman is one of those guys who
always stops at the yellow light and then sues the person whose driven behind him for ramming him from the back...problem is, like zimmerman, the yellow light stopper is wrong
...you're supposed to stop on red...should go pass go and go straight to jaill..
doesn't yellow mean slow down and stop?
The problem with many high publicly cases is that it's highly publicized. Therefore, the innocence or guilt of an individual will usually go unquestioned. Majority will believe the extent of how media sources has framed the newsworthy event. So how can justice serve anyone with all this baffling nonsense clouding our view.
Sorry folks, but having THC in one's blood does NOT indicate that he was dangerous in any way. It has been proven time and time again that THC users become passive, not aggressive. Most of the time that people are found to have become violent AND had THC in their system, they have also been consuming alcohol. In fact the marijuana likely caused them to be less violent than they would have been without the THC. Why in the world do we accept ( and even glorify)the drug that causes violence, but make the drug that causes peacefulness Against The Law?
True.
doesn't thc cause paranoia as well?
Exactly what mmmm said, that boy coulda smoked it weeks before. And Pablo, if you were being followed and harrassed you would be paranoid too, with or without pot! This man had no business following him, and he damn sure had no right to shoot him!
The difficulty with this case is both Zimmerman and Martin have blame for what happen. Zimmerman *shouldn't* have been carrying a gun or following Martin, but he had every right to given the law and I'm sure in his mind he was simply trying to prevent a burglary. Martin *shouldn't* have started fighting with Zimmerman–he could have called 911 himself that someone was following him, or held a discussion calmly with Zimmerman until police arrived.
My guess is that Zimmerman was well-intentioned but overzealous in monitoring Martin, and Martin overreacted and instigated a fight without realizing that Zimmerman had a gun. Once the fight was underway, either the gun came out )(and someone had to die) or Zimmerman fired in defense once he thought his life was in jeopardy.
Definitely tragic for Martin... but it sounds like what happened was really both their faults and unfortunately Martin ended up paying the ultimate price. But I bet Zimmerman will suffer too, either by going to jail or by the retaliation he'll face by all the people who consider him a monster. I feel bad for both families.
A "pusher" running after a "user", unable to pay his debt. Zimmermans apartment? Clean...of course. Not one seed found! 😉
I think that the biggest clue here is that the shot was taken from intermediate range. If it had been close range, then I could agree that GZ had to defend himself with split second decision, I.e., TM right on top of him. But 3 feet away? You can't punch or bash a head from 3 feet away. Unless, GZ was on the ground, perhaps fell back a distance from TM. But at that point, you are still not in immediate danger? The bullet always tells the truth.
Did TM have blood on a fist? If he punched GZ he would. Ok, let's assume he did. It seems that indeed a fight broke out. I assume that it would not be easy for a teen to wrestle a guy like GZ to the ground. What I think happened, is during the fight, GZ fell backwards, hitting his head. Now the ME report needs to say from which direction and angle the bullet entered. Tell us this and we will know for sure if GZ was on the ground and TM above, or if both were standing. This fact would seal the case, or not.. for me at least.