June 19th, 2012
02:14 PM ET

What Sandusky has said about child rape allegations

Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky - on trial this week on child rape allegations - has made many public comments about the case, including that while he may have "horsed around" with boys, he's innocent of the charges.

The comments came in the months before the trial - including a newly released, previously un-aired excerpt from a November NBC interview in which he said, while explaining that he had helped many young people through a charity he founded, that he "didn’t go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I’ve helped."

The trial began last week with the testimony of eight men who accuse him of sexually abusing them when they were boys. Over four days, several testified that Sandusky forced them to engage in sexual acts with him in various places, including showers in the Penn State coaches' locker room, hotel rooms and the basement of his home.

Sandusky, who has pleaded not guilty, has admitted showering with boys - some of whom he allegedly met through the charity he created for underprivileged children - but denies the child-sex accusations.

Here is what Sandusky has said publicly in the months before the trial:

Aired portions of NBC interview: I 'horsed around,' but am innocent

On November 14 - days after a graphic 23-page grand jury report detailing some of the allegations was released - Sandusky told NBC's Bob Costas in a phone interview that he was "innocent" of the charges and claimed that the only thing he did wrong was having "showered with those kids."

“I say that I am innocent of those charges,” Sandusky told Costas during the interview, which was aired on NBC's "Rock Center With Brian Williams."

Costas pressed. "Innocent? Completely innocent and falsely accused in every aspect?" Costas said.

Sandusky responded: “I could say that I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts. I have touched their leg - without intent of sexual contact.”

Costas also asked: "Are you sexually attracted to underage boys?"

Sandusky repeated the question, paused, and responded, "No. I enjoy young people."

Asked if then-head football coach Joe Paterno had ever spoken to him about his behavior or expressed disapproval, Sandustry said simply, "No."

See a timeline of the allegations

Sandusky also flatly denied a specific allegation that then-Penn State graduate assistant Mike McQueary witnessed Sandusky raping a young boy in 2002 in a Penn State locker room shower area. Sandusky said instead that he and the boy were in the shower, "snapping towels" and engaging in horseplay.

And asked if he felt guilty over the fallout that has affected the university and prominent university figures including Paterno, who was fired in the wake of the Sandusky scandal, Sandusky responded, "I don't think it was my fault. I obviously played a part in this ... I shouldn't have showered with those kids. That's what hits me the most."

New excerpt: I didn't 'seek out every young person for sexual needs'

In June, NBC reported that the prosecution had subpeoneaed a previously unaired portion of Costas' November interview with Sandusky.

Here is a transcript of that excerpt:

Costas: "So it’s entirely possible that you could have helped young boy A in some way that was not objectionable, while horribly taking advantage of young boy B, C, D and E. Isn’t that possible?"

Sandusky: “Well, you might think that. I don’t know. In terms of my relationship with so many, many young people, I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward - many more young people who would come forward - and say that my methods and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life.

“And I didn’t go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I’ve helped. There are many that I didn’t have - hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways.”

It's not clear whether the excerpt will be played for jurors.

New York Times interview: Trying to clarify position toward youths

In an interview with The New York Times published December 3, Sandusky attempted to clarify how he feels about his relationships with young people.

"If I say, 'No, I'm not attracted to young boys,' that's not the truth," Sandusky said. "Because I'm attracted to young people - boys, girls - I ..."

His lawyer, who was present at the interview, spoke up at that point to note that Sandusky is "not sexually" attracted to them.

"Right. I enjoy, that's what I was trying to say, I enjoy spending time with young people. I enjoy spending time with people," Sandusky continued. "I mean my two favorite groups are the elderly and the young."

According to the Times story, Sandusky stressed that he and Paterno never discussed the allegations of sexual misconduct.

"I don't know that he didn't know," he told the newspaper. "I know that he never said anything to me. I know that."

The Times interview with Sandusky honed in on two separate allegations of misconduct in 1998 and 2002.

When Sandusky retired in December 1999, an investigation of his alleged actions a year before had never been made public, but were later detailed in the grand jury's report.

Sandusky told the Times that Tim Curley, Penn State's athletic director at the time, confronted him about the alleged misconduct.

"He was concerned about it," he told the newspaper. "He was coming to me with a concern because, in his words, somebody had talked to him about inappropriate behavior in the shower."

Sandusky said he responded by saying "it didn't happen."

"In my mind, there wasn't inappropriate behavior," he said.

The former coach said Curley then told him that "he didn't want me to bring kids (into university facilities) and work them out anymore," according to the interview.

But, he told the Times, Curley never commandeered his keys to the facility.

"And I still went in there and worked out," the former coach said.

The four-hour interview was conducted at the home of his lawyer over two days, where he insisted that his decades of work with troubled youths as part of his charity the Second Mile had been "twisted" by prosecutors.

"They've taken everything that I ever did for any young person and twisted it to say that my motives were sexual or whatever," Sandusky said. "I had kid after kid after kid who might say I was a father figure. And they just twisted that all."

February: Sandusky objects to house arrest restrictions

On February 10, Sandusky publicly objected to some of the restrictions of his house arrest while he awaited trial. Those restrictions included no contact with his 11 grandchildren.

After attending a court hearing seeking relief from those restrictions, Sandusky addressed reporters.

"Friends who call me and who want to be with me, who want to see me, and I have to say, 'No, I can’t,' and they ask why," Sandusky said. "So I asked (my attorney Joe Amendola) why, and that’s why he brought it up.

"Or when I had a wife who came home after visiting with grandchildren, or was sitting there when grandchildren call (on) my birthday and they asked to talk to me, and she has to tell them that they can’t, I’m sensitive to that. Or when she comes home from visiting with grandchildren and tells me that one of them said that, 'The only thing I want for my birthday is to see Pop,' I’m sensitive to that. And that’s why I came today."

A judge later ruled that Sandusky could visit with some of his grandchildren. The judge also ruled that Sandusky would be allowed to have visits from adult friends and to leave his home for meetings with attorneys and private investigators aiding in his defense, provided that a probation coordinator approved.

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soundoff (319 Responses)
  1. JoePa

    Penn State is getting tired of being on the news so much they are changing to Mormonism and changing the name of school to " Bring'em Young"!

    June 19, 2012 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Big Ron

    I agree with ms.diane.This country is the most paranoid nation on earth.and for good reason.the media.it always takes sides in criminal cases without knowing all of the facts.people are guilty until proven innocent.this sandusky case is no different.the media sucks in america.the media will always want to get a rise out of the public with what they report,regardless of how unfair and biased the report may actually be.sandusky is accused of a crime that has not yielded one bit of proof or evidence against him.only the words of a few young men looking for a big settlement with their lawyers.if people are going to be sent to prison because someone else says they did something criminal then we are going to need to build more prisons.also because of this problem with the media,more settlements have been made in the last twenty five years for false imprisonment then ever before.it's a travesty!

    June 19, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • KE

      Wow! Another one Jerry would love for his Jury

      June 19, 2012 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sunnysout

      and your point is? If you don't live in the USA, don't bring your jealous rhetoric here.....

      June 19, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse |
  3. jimzcarz

    Better start taking stool softeners Jerry..Bubba's gonna be down that poop chute like a road grater down a country road.

    June 19, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Robert

    If you ask me what should be done with Sanduski, I would say execute him.

    June 19, 2012 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
  5. jimzcarz

    We really need to revisit our sentencing laws when it comes to crimes like this. There is NO cure for pedophilia, No rehabilitation.These animals need to be put down.

    June 19, 2012 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Deanna Wilson

    Of course he says he didn't do anything wrong....folks he really believes he didn't. He thinks he is above the law. He's so full of himself. The bottom line is, if you didn't do anything, nobody would be coming after you.

    June 19, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
  7. LarryB

    Attorneys for pedophiles are at this moment trying to find out contact information on Laraine and Chantel, so they can sneak 'em into the jury pool somehow.

    June 19, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
  8. KE

    and Big Ron

    June 19, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  9. LarryB

    Why do so many persist in saying "people are innocent until proven guilty" as if it's some kind of truism? What it is is a legal concept designed to protect the accused. Factually, it makes no sense at all, if you think about it.
    And only the court is bound to respect that concept. The rest of us are free to draw our own conclusions.

    June 19, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Billy

    I didn't fondle that many kids... Cuz I didn't fondle any I mean! And it's not like I went around anally raping every kid I saw! Just the one or two... came forward to accuse me of something I didn't do!

    June 19, 2012 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Why_Bother

    You must be socially inept if you see and hear the evidence let alone Jerry speak in an interview and believe this man to be not guilty. Likely some kind of social personality disorder is affecting you and causing you to wear blinders for some reason.

    June 19, 2012 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Dorkus

    He's a good Christian and a good Republican. The fact that he is innocent is self-evident.

    June 19, 2012 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • WOW!

      You are of course joking right? a good christian does not violate young boys or children in general. You think those catholic priest are good catholics too right?? DELUSIONAL!

      June 19, 2012 at 10:33 pm | Report abuse |
  13. George

    No one should forget that Penn State is inextricably tied to this as well as the perpetrator of the heinous acts. Management was apprised of the situation in time to prevent misconduct and failed to do so. I realize that I have already tried and convicted Sandusky, but the evidence here is as damning as the evidence in the OJ trial ..... wait, bad comparison.

    June 19, 2012 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
  14. c. jane

    for all you naysayers, don't forget, the one victim has produced letters filled with declarations of love (from sandusky), highly inappropriate behavior in the very least. in addition, another victim's mother confronted sandusky about showering with her son while authorities listened in and he stated "he wanted to kill himself." that comment doesn't seem applicable to innocent "towel snapping." i've worked in the criminal court system for over thirty years and can tell you, the only "travesty" in this case is that sandusky's serial molesting was enabled by penn state officials who cared more about their football program then helping innocent at-risk youths. really sickening.

    June 19, 2012 at 4:58 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Michelle

    Keep this guy AWAY from ALL children including his grandchildren. Why does he have any rights at all?? I do believe the Lord could do a miracle with him. For years people looked the other direction and sent children into his arms to damage and abuse. He is a complete liar and is using the system. Why would he EVER EVER EVER have access to any children?? ESPECIALLY his bloodline. My guess is the bloodline is next for stepping forward to what he has done. I want even his grandchildren protected by the law. Why does he have more rights than his granchildren?? NO ACCESS TO ANY CHILD EVER.

    June 19, 2012 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      "I do believe the Lord could do a miracle with him." If there is a such thing as "the Lord", why would he wait until after this monster had molested some 2 dozen school boys for 20 years before "doing a miracle"?

      June 19, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • You are spot on...

      and no one could have said it better!!!!

      June 19, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
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