June 19th, 2012
02:14 PM ET

What Sandusky has said about child rape allegations

Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky - on trial this week on child rape allegations - has made many public comments about the case, including that while he may have "horsed around" with boys, he's innocent of the charges.

The comments came in the months before the trial - including a newly released, previously un-aired excerpt from a November NBC interview in which he said, while explaining that he had helped many young people through a charity he founded, that he "didn’t go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I’ve helped."

The trial began last week with the testimony of eight men who accuse him of sexually abusing them when they were boys. Over four days, several testified that Sandusky forced them to engage in sexual acts with him in various places, including showers in the Penn State coaches' locker room, hotel rooms and the basement of his home.

Sandusky, who has pleaded not guilty, has admitted showering with boys - some of whom he allegedly met through the charity he created for underprivileged children - but denies the child-sex accusations.

Here is what Sandusky has said publicly in the months before the trial:

Aired portions of NBC interview: I 'horsed around,' but am innocent

On November 14 - days after a graphic 23-page grand jury report detailing some of the allegations was released - Sandusky told NBC's Bob Costas in a phone interview that he was "innocent" of the charges and claimed that the only thing he did wrong was having "showered with those kids."

“I say that I am innocent of those charges,” Sandusky told Costas during the interview, which was aired on NBC's "Rock Center With Brian Williams."

Costas pressed. "Innocent? Completely innocent and falsely accused in every aspect?" Costas said.

Sandusky responded: “I could say that I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts. I have touched their leg - without intent of sexual contact.”

Costas also asked: "Are you sexually attracted to underage boys?"

Sandusky repeated the question, paused, and responded, "No. I enjoy young people."

Asked if then-head football coach Joe Paterno had ever spoken to him about his behavior or expressed disapproval, Sandustry said simply, "No."

See a timeline of the allegations

Sandusky also flatly denied a specific allegation that then-Penn State graduate assistant Mike McQueary witnessed Sandusky raping a young boy in 2002 in a Penn State locker room shower area. Sandusky said instead that he and the boy were in the shower, "snapping towels" and engaging in horseplay.

And asked if he felt guilty over the fallout that has affected the university and prominent university figures including Paterno, who was fired in the wake of the Sandusky scandal, Sandusky responded, "I don't think it was my fault. I obviously played a part in this ... I shouldn't have showered with those kids. That's what hits me the most."

New excerpt: I didn't 'seek out every young person for sexual needs'

In June, NBC reported that the prosecution had subpeoneaed a previously unaired portion of Costas' November interview with Sandusky.

Here is a transcript of that excerpt:

Costas: "So it’s entirely possible that you could have helped young boy A in some way that was not objectionable, while horribly taking advantage of young boy B, C, D and E. Isn’t that possible?"

Sandusky: “Well, you might think that. I don’t know. In terms of my relationship with so many, many young people, I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward - many more young people who would come forward - and say that my methods and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life.

“And I didn’t go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I’ve helped. There are many that I didn’t have - hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways.”

It's not clear whether the excerpt will be played for jurors.

New York Times interview: Trying to clarify position toward youths

In an interview with The New York Times published December 3, Sandusky attempted to clarify how he feels about his relationships with young people.

"If I say, 'No, I'm not attracted to young boys,' that's not the truth," Sandusky said. "Because I'm attracted to young people - boys, girls - I ..."

His lawyer, who was present at the interview, spoke up at that point to note that Sandusky is "not sexually" attracted to them.

"Right. I enjoy, that's what I was trying to say, I enjoy spending time with young people. I enjoy spending time with people," Sandusky continued. "I mean my two favorite groups are the elderly and the young."

According to the Times story, Sandusky stressed that he and Paterno never discussed the allegations of sexual misconduct.

"I don't know that he didn't know," he told the newspaper. "I know that he never said anything to me. I know that."

The Times interview with Sandusky honed in on two separate allegations of misconduct in 1998 and 2002.

When Sandusky retired in December 1999, an investigation of his alleged actions a year before had never been made public, but were later detailed in the grand jury's report.

Sandusky told the Times that Tim Curley, Penn State's athletic director at the time, confronted him about the alleged misconduct.

"He was concerned about it," he told the newspaper. "He was coming to me with a concern because, in his words, somebody had talked to him about inappropriate behavior in the shower."

Sandusky said he responded by saying "it didn't happen."

"In my mind, there wasn't inappropriate behavior," he said.

The former coach said Curley then told him that "he didn't want me to bring kids (into university facilities) and work them out anymore," according to the interview.

But, he told the Times, Curley never commandeered his keys to the facility.

"And I still went in there and worked out," the former coach said.

The four-hour interview was conducted at the home of his lawyer over two days, where he insisted that his decades of work with troubled youths as part of his charity the Second Mile had been "twisted" by prosecutors.

"They've taken everything that I ever did for any young person and twisted it to say that my motives were sexual or whatever," Sandusky said. "I had kid after kid after kid who might say I was a father figure. And they just twisted that all."

February: Sandusky objects to house arrest restrictions

On February 10, Sandusky publicly objected to some of the restrictions of his house arrest while he awaited trial. Those restrictions included no contact with his 11 grandchildren.

After attending a court hearing seeking relief from those restrictions, Sandusky addressed reporters.

"Friends who call me and who want to be with me, who want to see me, and I have to say, 'No, I can’t,' and they ask why," Sandusky said. "So I asked (my attorney Joe Amendola) why, and that’s why he brought it up.

"Or when I had a wife who came home after visiting with grandchildren, or was sitting there when grandchildren call (on) my birthday and they asked to talk to me, and she has to tell them that they can’t, I’m sensitive to that. Or when she comes home from visiting with grandchildren and tells me that one of them said that, 'The only thing I want for my birthday is to see Pop,' I’m sensitive to that. And that’s why I came today."

A judge later ruled that Sandusky could visit with some of his grandchildren. The judge also ruled that Sandusky would be allowed to have visits from adult friends and to leave his home for meetings with attorneys and private investigators aiding in his defense, provided that a probation coordinator approved.

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soundoff (319 Responses)
  1. Cher

    Where was the Mrs. when this was all going on? no one can tell me she did not know. She is just as guilty for not protecting those young boys.

    June 19, 2012 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chelsey

      She says that he is completely innocent throught this entire thing.. Stupid lady... How could she not see what was going on in her own home??

      June 19, 2012 at 5:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • You are spot on...

      I agree! She is every bit a part of this by turning a blind eye! Too many children coming through their house and spending the night. PERIOD!

      June 19, 2012 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
  2. jim

    Ever thought of writing a romantic prison novel?

    June 19, 2012 at 5:04 pm | Report abuse |
  3. woogiesmom

    This dude makes me ill to my stomach.

    June 19, 2012 at 5:05 pm | Report abuse |
  4. jacx801

    This man is not going ANYWHERE. He is going to be foun not guilty... He has loaded the jury and the trial is taking place close to his hometown, there is no way THEY are going to sent him to prison. This trial is a joke!!!! This man, in the eyes of mos,t can do no wrong.....

    June 19, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
  5. anon

    I think Sandusky is going to go away for a LOOOOONG time. Penn state will go bankrupt from all the lawsuits and eventually close its doors. Probably within the next five years.

    June 19, 2012 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
  6. aimzatron

    For the people that think this is not true due to the fact that the victims cannot remember every single detail, I am sorry but you are wrong. People black things out that are particularly emotionally/physically scarring. I can't remember anything from when I was ten years old, let alone the one thing I wanted or tried to forget. Why would multiple people make something this awful up? Also, why are you contributing to the hardship of the countless people who have been molested that are afraid to speak up by saying that they are lying? You are the reason people like this don't get put in jail because you perpetuating this cycle of denial. You are making people believe that their voices don't count. It is hard enough to come forward and discuss molestation that occurred as a child, it is even harder when people are too naive to believe it exists so they deny that such a thing could ever occur.

    June 19, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
  7. JB

    If only that Texas father walked in on him!!!

    June 19, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
  8. itwasntme

    Offended! Boehner! Slam! And gratuitous ponderings of pedophilia among republican leaders. Inane comparison of rich people with nazis or the kkk. Pompous self-righteous declarations!!

    June 19, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Philip

    Sandusky's probably saying what most of you women (and men who think like women) have been saying to me for the past year...it's pedophilia, not raype.
    Kiss my grits. 🙂

    June 19, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • LB

      I have been reading THIS JUST IN since 2010. Nobody has EVER, EVER said that pedolphelia isn't raype. EVER. I've seen your posts, and I know how you skew things to your own agenda. Vefore you even try to say that I am focusing on the person, not the post: re-read what you said. You brought youself up. Kiss your own grits, because nobody, EVER EVER EVER said that what happened to these children by this pedophile WANS'T RA PE!

      June 19, 2012 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Really?

    If anything, he could be convicted by the words that came out of his own mouth. If this isn't an admission of his guilt, then I do not know what is.

    June 19, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
  11. dan

    I wonder if his stepchildren will come out with some books once he's in the slammer for good? And to think this guy has been roaming the streets for over 60 years and working with children all these years. Amazing!!

    June 19, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Philip

    The crime: Statutory Raype
    The motive: Lust
    Case closed. Me right. You wrong...all along you were wrong. All those endless arguements between myself and the hag ladies insisting it wasn't raype.
    Another example:
    The convicted criminal: Gay Priest
    Crime: Aggrevated statutory raype
    Motive: Lust for tight boy ass.
    Punishment: 50 years hard labor
    No? Bring it on.

    June 19, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • LB

      I am eagerly looking forward to you producing evidence, besides your own faulty memory, where any person, whether it was a hag lady or a hag man, has said that pedophelia was NOT ra pe. That was never an issue. What you said is all gay men are pedophiles. THAT is what people were arguing about. You lose.

      June 19, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hope


      Are you GAY? I suggest you read the account of Sodom and Gomorrah!

      June 19, 2012 at 11:28 pm | Report abuse |
  13. mamabear

    why was this man left alone with a child?.....that is a red flag right there!.....u never ever leave children alone with someone they dont know...this is opportunity for the predator to strike......i was assaulted my someone that was supposed to protect me...and i was so little...i questioned why am i here with this person i hardly know...and sure enough it happened.....but i was aware enough to run.....sad for a child to endure such scars......

    June 19, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
  14. You are spot on...

    ...and you think those grandchildren should ever see you again? Where is your wife? Shame on you for confusing the grandchildren more by talking in front of this jerk grandfather. You never deserve to be around any child again and I only hope that the judge and jury will make an intelligent verdict, GUILTY! This many young adults would not lie about such a horrific way you changed their lives FOREVER. ....and for the wife....I have no opinion about wives in politics that stay with their husband who cheated. You have to live with what it does to your children. However you, Mrs. Sandusky...SHAME, SHAME on you by standing by this creep who has destroyed the normal childhood these young men could have experienced. You say you had no knowledge of this or that it didn't happen. A fool can't fool the rest of us. You too will share in the evil thing this non-human will feel.

    June 19, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
  15. George

    Dante did not factor in a level low enough for this guy.

    June 19, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
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