August 7th, 2012
12:53 AM ET

'Swimming upstream,' white supremacist groups still strong

Quick. Think of a white supremacist group.

What comes to mind? The Ku Klux Klan during the 1920s? Maybe the Nazis in World World II?

Think again.

Hundreds of white supremacist groups are active in the United States today and are experiencing a kind of resurgence.

They are in the spotlight this week in the wake of a deadly shooting at a Sikh temple outside Milwaukee. Authorities have said they are looking into whether the alleged gunman, who was killed, had ties to a white supremacist group.

"I know they're out there. I try not to alarm the public too much, but it's something that really needs to be taken a hold of now because more and more we see facts coming out that this is happening more often and more often, and it's not going to stop anytime soon," said David Gletty, who worked as an undercover informant on extremist groups for the FBI.


Filed under: Crime • U.S. • World
soundoff (25 Responses)
  1. james ainoris

    Usually men (cowards) that join such groups are "scared white boyz"... young fustrated mostly ignorant young men who grew up without fathers (white and black racists same evil).... They may not have good jobs or many attractive females around and very much like arab youth in gaza get seduced into being haters... they need a scapegoat to blame their failed society on ...or some whacky conspiracy about some group controlling banks or government... throughout history we see this repeated time and time... Often inbreeding (incest) and consumption of wood alcohol by parents of these poor men often cause arrested development and brain thought disorders..small reproductive organ leading to insecurity also causes such anger and fustration. They often are obsessed with men of color taking their females... crazy.. We are all children of G-d.. Moses married a black woman...Jeezus was not european... I am embarassed to be white by these people... jim ainoris

    August 7, 2012 at 1:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Jay jay

      I'm sorry you were born with inadequate reproductive organs. I'm sorry your wife was taken by a black man. Life goes on...

      August 7, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
  2. drap™

    Just read this blog after dinner... . OMG tell me its not the salmon... .!

    August 7, 2012 at 1:42 am | Report abuse |
  3. ronvan

    "FREE SPEECH", "OUR RIGHTS": In today's world these two terms have become perverted! Used by anyone that wants to FORCE their beleifs, opinions, onto others. ALL of these so called "do gooder" groups that are constantly yelling that it is US, that are wrong, and that THEY are the only ones who have the answers! WHY is it that we still continue to tolerate those groups whos only goal is to preach hatred, racial bigotry, and are only ticking time bombs waiting for one of their own to take some kind of crazy action? The "right" that groups like the KKK, white supremists, and similar groups, can put on their hoods, and wear uniforms, that ONLY represent hatred and bigotry, is repugnant!!

    August 7, 2012 at 3:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Mickey1313

      While I agree that they are repugnant, they have rights the same reason that christians and muslems still have rights. It is a slippery slope, the stealing of rights.

      August 7, 2012 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |

    The colonization of over half the planet by White Eurocentric Skinheads that is now ongoing is one heck of a big supremacist group.
    Oh, you say not white supreacist, because they "allow" any non white to join the occupation forces?
    Who are they working for?
    Who controls the payrolls and makes the profits?
    What non white nations are invading or has military bases in foreighn predominately white populated nations.
    What predominately white led nations believes that they can invade any nation, not that we have any nation declaring war upon any Euro centrics, to reararrange their social sructures and then ruins the nations they invade by impoverishing them and then enda up running their financial sovereignty?
    what is favorite derogatory term for any middle eastern or centrsl asians by the mainly white led and majority staffed. military personell.
    What color of skin has been the largest group to pollute the earth and says it is cost of civilization?
    What racial group now they are at pinical of wealth now wants the poor minoritys to vut back on growth so they can keep from soiling their own nest mess any further?
    What racial grouping does not even need a religiou calling to go around the world telling othrr races we know what is best for you?
    What color of skin still thinls that blacks and other minoritys need help and treat both domestic and foreign as if they were choldren.
    We feel their pains? What a barge ful of horse puckys.
    We do not let diversity change the white culture we make it conform to what whites say is culture..
    This hype is a product of the same stupidity as the gays complaining about a chicken eatery.and white females classified ad a minority in Us and living off of progrsms suposedly began for minoritys.
    The locust have just about ate themselves out of goofies and are flying around the world eating it as they go, the white locust.

    August 7, 2012 at 3:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Mickey1313

      You know being anti white is racist too. You sound as bad or worse than many white bigots

      August 7, 2012 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Portland tony

    Most of these White Supremacy groups are forged in large prisons out of necessity of just surviving. Each ethnic group, because of their gang and neighborhood associations prior to being incarcerated stick together when in the prison population. The blacks, the Latinos and the whites all form groups and in some cases carry on their association post release. While some, not all form racial hate groups because of their upbringing, most guys learn hatred while in prison. Ironically this occurs mostly in the northern Max and Supermax lockups. Your ethnic gang is the only group that's going to keep you relatively safe while doing your time...because guards aren't paid to keep you alive ..only to ensure you don't escape or engage in criminal activity. So while you don't need to go to prison to be a skinhead, most recruits come from there!

    August 7, 2012 at 7:30 am | Report abuse |
  6. Philip

    Would a church or a street gang that is made-up of just one color of people be considered a rascist group? If not, why not. ty

    August 7, 2012 at 9:26 am | Report abuse |
  7. Philip

    ...and not everyone joins a gang, Tony. Inside OR outside of prison.

    August 7, 2012 at 9:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Scallop

      You would know this from what, personal experience? Prison is dif from country jail.

      August 7, 2012 at 9:31 am | Report abuse |
  8. Hope


    God knows no color!


    August 7, 2012 at 9:29 am | Report abuse |
  9. Philip

    And Tony? Check your facts. Gang members inside and outside of prisons have a much higher mortality rate than individuals not associating themselves with a gang.

    August 7, 2012 at 9:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Portland tony

      As far as I know, if you don't join an ethnic are fair game for an ass-kicking and disrespect from every one including the the commenter pointed out, Max prisons are not your county jail.

      August 7, 2012 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
  10. Philip

    No? (@Hope) Then what's with all of the all-black and all-white churches? (not counting tokens)

    August 7, 2012 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |
  11. Philip

    @Hope. I once lived and raised a family in the town of Mineola Texas. In that town there were two Baptist churches. The one next to the park was for whites, and the one that was literally "on the other side of the RR tracks was for blacks. How is it that God does not see in color when people claiming to worship him do?

    August 7, 2012 at 9:39 am | Report abuse |
    • s kel

      Duhhh phil ,Hope said God knows no color,God....not the church,God!

      August 7, 2012 at 9:48 am | Report abuse |
  12. Philip

    @Scallop. Many of the men and women in county jails are experienced prison inmates. While prison and county jail is not the same, many of the people are.

    August 7, 2012 at 9:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Portland tony

      Not true .....You go to county for DWI's, child support, immigration, minor domestic violence, minor drug use etc.....You go to prison for felonies, You go Max or Supermax for armed robbery, homicide etc. Sometimes your posts are thought provoking ..others are thoughtless!

      August 7, 2012 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
  13. banasy©

    I am reminded of that story just last week, where the couple were denied being married in their own church because of their skin color.
    We've come *such* a long way.

    As for white supremacy groups, hate groups have existed for as long as there have been hate and groups.
    Hate groups are found in every ethnicity, so demonizing one over the other is disingenuous.

    August 7, 2012 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
  14. banasy©

    I live extremeley close to what one could call a "black" church, if one were to label it.

    I also live relatively near what one could call a "white" church, if one were going to label it.

    Guess what?
    They both worship the same God, and they hold services at different times, so the devout can go to two different churches...where they are welcome.

    August 7, 2012 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
  15. Mary

    If those who are *devout* as you say... *they* would welcome all.

    August 7, 2012 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
1 2