September 6th, 2012
02:32 PM ET

Comments: 'Love him or hate him,' but Clinton fires up Democrats at convention

Editor's note: We're listening to you. Every day, we spot thought-provoking comments from readers. Here are some comments we noticed Thursday:

As former President Bill Clinton took to the stage at the Democratic National Convention, readers took to their cameras and keyboards to let us know what they thought about his speech Wednesday night and how the convention is going so far.

Five things we learned from Day Two of the DNC

Clinton has been a controversial figure not only for his politics but for his personal life and resulting impeachment. David P. Kronmiller of Burbank, California, alluded to this past, asking "does he help or hurt Democrats?" and referring to "mixed messages" even as he gave the former president good marks for his words.

"He's an excellent storyteller," Kronmiller said. "He's very good at telling the story of an event - in this case, Barack Obama's successes."

And then there's Mark Ivy, a CNN iReporter who says he leans toward Mitt Romney but was keeping an eye on "classic Bill Clinton" on Wednesday night. The Farmersburg, Indiana, resident said that although many people "love (Clinton) or hate him," he also felt that "no one knows how to reach out and touch the common folk better than the man from Hope," or exhibits better skills to "play to the base of the Democratic Party."

"Bill Clinton was vintage Bill Clinton tonight as he formally nominated President Barack Obama to carry the torch for yet another four years for the Democratic National Party. That included the fact that as customary, Bill was not short-winded... ."

Some of the reaction came directly from Charlotte, North Carolina, site of the DNC events. The following two iReporters won a CNN contest to attend the DNC, just as others had gone to the Republican National Convention.

Omekongo Dibinga of Washington noted in his video commentary that he felt the speech was effective despite some controversy surrounding the convention's second day.

"While the speech was a little long, he definitely got the point across," Dibinga said.

"Overall there was a great deal of energy around Day 2 of the DNC. President Clinton made a strong case for why we are better off than four years ago as well. Now it's time for President Obama to bring it home!"

Melissa Fazli of Yorba Linda, California, said she plans to vote for Obama and was excited to see the president in person. She also said she saw Clinton "electrify at the DNC" and added that "Bill Clinton is right. Two plus two does equal four."

"He did a terrific job by pointing out that it wasn't just the Democrats that put us in so much debt," she said. "Simple arithmetic."

While Clinton's speech provoked favorable responses from many commenters, plenty of readers felt uncomfortable about the former president speaking.

earledecker:
"What I learned from Day 2.
1) Republicans still hate Bill Clinton.
2) Bill Clinton is still relevant.
3) When Bill Clinton speaks America listens.
4) Bill Clinton drives Republicans crazy.
5) Bill Clinton knows he drives Republicans Bat Sh** crazy.
6) President Obama will seal the deal on Thursday.
7) Republicans are on now on suicide watch.
Obama 2012
Romney 1040"

middleright: "Why don't you ask Bill to show his tax returns, he makes a fortune speaking overseas. I bet most of that money never makes it back to the country you love. And ask Monica Lewinsky how her life is going since Bill and Hill destroyed with the likes of CNN and the rest, and ask him why he didn't pull the trigger on (Osama) bin laden when he ha(d) the chance, would of saved a lot of lives. What a great man. He's so great his wife is never home."

Many iReporters and commenters mentioned the controversy surrounding the inclusion in the Democratic platform of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Some called the DNC vote a "flip-flop."

Democrats update platform with Jerusalem, God reference

On iReport, a video from Ivy described the "rough second day start" to the DNC.

"After closing on such a high note last night, it seems the party leadership stepped in it today over the issues of God and Jerusalem. Even the votes to let God back in to the convention and to reaffirm Jerusalem as Israel’s capital has turned to controversy. It seemed apparent listening to the vote, that the majority wanted God shut out of the party. Not good for wooing independents, moderates or conservative Democrats sitting back in the heartland."

Dibinga also referred to the controversy in his video, saying the incident was discouraging but that Clinton brought the convention back on track.

"The main problem that I had with that was not so much the language, because that's what President Obama believed. It was the way in which they did it. It broke the spirit of unity that I could see from inside the convention. Of course there were people outside who were protesting and expressing their opinions, and nobody's bothering them, but inside there's been a real spirit of togetherness. President Clinton really brought that togetherness. He's the first major politician I've seen who came out and said we're better off than we were four years ago."

And then there were some who said they thought religion should not influence policy.

HectorLG: "This change was unneeded. It disregards all the people, like me, (who) are agnostic. Which God, anyhow? Completely backwards, Mr. President. I'm forced to vote for the best of the two evils, instead of the best of the candidates. Politics, that's all. Don't forget the Jewish vote, and their dollars in contributions."

Brian Smith: "Should have stuck to their guns. Israel does not own the USA. They can't tell us what to do, but wait, yes they can! What else do our Israeli overlords desire?  Oh right, they want us to attack Iran, unprovoked, and wipe them off the map. Gotcha."

Overall, readers oscillated between frustration with political procedures and interests involved, and concerns about the Democratic Party's attitude toward Judaism and religion in general.

Varun Verma: "We saw at DNC today how much democrats believe in democratic procedures. The voice vote clearly sounded like equal strength on both sides. It seems like they had already decided what the outcome they wanted for the voice vote. So they were simply insulting the delegates by taking their 'voice vote.' It not only exposed a divided house but also pandering to AIPAC (a pro-Israel lobbing group) as well as to polls showing God is important to voters. No principled leadership, only pandering and flip-flopping based on the polls."

Tex71: "Omitting Jerusalem from the platform might seem like a blunder to a very small group of ultra-religious folks who think the USA should keep messing with Middle Eastern politics for some vague apocalyptic reason. Personally, I am far more concerned by the omission from the GOP platform of any specific plan for job growth (throwing more money at the wealthy in hopes they will throw us a bone doesn't count) or really any other topic of substance, having no other clear goal besides making sure President Obama doesn't get re-elected – and turning back the clock 300 years on women's rights, and reducing the middle class to wage-slavery/serfdom. OK, I guess they do have somewhat of an agenda."

What's your take on the DNC so far? Share your opinion in the comments area below and in the latest stories on CNN.com. Or sound off on video via CNN iReport.

Compiled by the CNN.com moderation staff. Some comments edited for length or clarity.

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  1. StephVa

    Bill Clinton, as always, is a very powerful speaker! Last night was no exception.

    Obama/Biden 2012 by a LANDSLIDE!

    September 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Pablo

      Yeah! Let the revolution roll! I never got anything from republicans. If you want social justice and the rich to pay the fair share so the rest of us can enjoy a little more American dream then you know how to vote. Legalize marijuana and make education a human right that the rich have to fund, and everything is good! Invest in the future!

      September 6, 2012 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jay jay

      just sad that the dems denounced god last night. The speaker gave em three chances to embrace religion and you know what the crowd did? They booed. Just sad sad sad. They embrace anal s x between two dudes and chastise people for their religion. That's the democratic party for America. No thanks. I'm still gonna vote for the business man and not the blood suckin lawyer.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hamsta

      @JayJay totally agree, re elect Obama if you want meteors falling from the sky onto washington D.Dc., for those that can't grasp that concept God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gammorha for exactly that reason. Where do you think the word sodomy came from?

      September 6, 2012 at 9:24 pm | Report abuse |
  2. banasy©

    Chrissy and bciah:
    Ignorami.
    Is that the ancient art of paper-folding?

    I couldn't resist.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobcat (in a hat)©

      Actually, what I found out aboit ignorami is, The ancient art of folding red, white and blue paper into the shape of an elephant.
      No partisanship here. Heh, heh, heh

      September 6, 2012 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • dazzle ©

      @Jayjay, changing the topic for you. How's your weather in Maricopa County? Right now, that is. Hello everyone.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jay jay

      I'm in pinal county dazzle. I see there is yet another darn dust storm coming. Sittin at about 100 degrees n muggy. Hope we get some rain. How r u today?

      September 6, 2012 at 8:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jackster

      Is pinal county like a penal colony?

      September 6, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • @Hamsta

      Humorless litlle robot arentcha? Can't recognize sarcasm, homie?

      September 6, 2012 at 9:47 pm | Report abuse |
  3. chrissy

    lol banasy ACOURSE you couldnt, just like i couldnt resist the acourse part. And it doesnt matter who Clintons GOD is because there is a seperation of church and government, correct?

    September 6, 2012 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      Chrissy:
      According to the Urban Dictionary, ignorami is the Asian art or origami, for dummies.
      Ignorami is the non-standard plural of ignoramus.
      The standard form is actually ignoramuses.
      Fun word, either way, if not just a tad bit patronizing.
      Oh, well.
      Stepping away from the lectern, now.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • cleareye1

      I prefer the term ignoratti.

      September 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      Cleareye1:
      That *does* have a certain ring to it...

      September 6, 2012 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
  4. cleareye1

    Clinton drove a stake through the Romney Inc heart, but the beast is still moving. No matter what happens in November the threat to middle class Americans will remain. When Obama wins they will just blame dead voters, ignorant old people and young people that vote with their hearts, not their foreign bank accounts.

    September 6, 2012 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Mama for Obama

    I watched the speech last night and then watched it again today on CNN.com. Awesome!!!!! He was great and right on! I agree with others who have said that they can't understand how ANYONE can vote for Romney/Ryan. There is no comparison. You can vote for REAL American values, or you can vote for the lies and hate of this Republican Party. This President WILL be re-elected but WE need to make sure that he has a Congress that WILL WORK with him FOR the American people, and not for billionaires, Wall Street, and the oil companies. We need to get out there and VOTE, VOTE, VOTE for Democrats. Let's get rid of the Republicans in office who have thrown our country and our PEOPLE under the bus!

    September 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jackster

      Numbers are a little flawed, there, Limbaugh. Only 300 thousand in four years? Check again, there, boy.

      September 6, 2012 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hamsta

      Real American values don't imclude making excuses for not getting the job done, lies about how you're gonna do the job and demonizing the next man who is more qualified to do the job. That is the values of that leach you can't get off your couch when you tell him to get a job.

      September 7, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
  6. chrissy

    @ Jay Jay, ive said it before but ill say it again: Ronald McDonald has more qualifications than your bussinessman, with a much better record of putting americans to work!

    September 6, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jay jay

      3.5 mill claim by dems of jobs created. Actual number is 300 thousand. I hate liars Cuzz that's what they are doing. All in an effort to keep his job. If you or I did that horribly at our job we would be fired. Yet this clown is begging to keep his job and hang on to power. Duh...

      September 6, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jackster

      BS Jay jay. Since taking office, Obama has added 1.4 million jobs, as of Jan 5, 2012. Wanna tell me now how Romney is supposed to magically pull out 4 million jobs a year? Ones that actually pay money, that is.

      September 6, 2012 at 8:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jackster

      Ohhhhh, I see. When the Dems say that, it;s not good enough, but your boi says it and it's magically delicious? WHAT IS THE PLAN? YOU AIN'T GOT ONE, shut UP! Who's ignorant? The one who ain't got the answer. YOU.

      September 6, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hamsta

      After hearing what Obama had to say in louisiana, I have to say Clint Eastwood is 100% correct,the chair is empty, he's not doing his job because he is campaigning or out playing golf or on tv trying to sell me a dinner plate with his face on it. Job well done alright, done so well Louisiana had widespread problems from a cat1 hurricane. That was even worse than Bush saying " heck of a job Brownie. " don't forget it was Bush who decided to fill in the M.R.G.O. that resulted in the destruction of the wetlands that protect us. It was bush that beefed up the levees in New Orleans. That's right Bush did an excellent job with what he was able to complete. Mr. President the job isn't complete, and you left the job unfinished with your stamp of approval on it. Congragulations you officially insulted Louisiana more than Bush did with his comment.

      September 6, 2012 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jackie Chan Superstar

      Rubbish. Clint was way off the mark. He's outta his mind. Slick willy backs up his stuff with FACTS, not an empty chair. Vote Romney already, but spare us your mindless garbage. Oh, WHO do you think was RESPONSIBLE for the wetlands be messed up in the first place....the oil companies....and guess what? Louisiana ain't a country. There are 49 more that needs to be thought about. Clints a loser and so is Romneys empty blah blah.

      September 6, 2012 at 9:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hamsta

      You really must br stupid to believe that either Obama or Clinton are going to gibe you facts, both are proven to be good liars. I will give you a few facts. Hollywood south is in New Orleans. California taxed the rich and spent on social justice to the point that even Hollywood is leaving California. Four more years of Obama and not only will yoir "American" cars be completely made in Mexico, but the entire company will be on mexico.

      September 7, 2012 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Jeff Frank (R-Ohio) "The Lunatic Fringe"

    Bill Clinton doesn't upset me or make me nervous. He said with Mitt Romney, the numbers don't add up, and it was a case for simple arithmetic. (As if I wasn't watching the DNC). What former President Bill Clinton "didn't say", is that the current POTUS, had four long straight years to do something about it, AND HE HASN'T!

    September 6, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      What is your boy going to do to add jobs?
      Repeal Nafta?
      As that was a Bush 1 written deal, how is that going to go over with the GOP?
      What did Clint Eastwood say in his cute little skit that Romney was going to do?

      Face it.
      Your boy got owned.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jay jay

      yea ole bills speech said just this: you were dealt a worse hand than me. You did horribly but the folks need to vote for obomba. Thanks billy for the pep talk but I won't vote for a guy that said he gives himself an "incomplete" on his grade of being president.

      September 6, 2012 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      Again, I ask, Jay jay:
      What's your boy's plan?
      Nobody can give me an answer either...

      September 6, 2012 at 8:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Hamsta

      Doesn't matter Banasy, when someone can't do the job they were hired to do you fire that person and hire someone else. That someone else is Romney. If he can't do the job fire him to.

      September 6, 2012 at 9:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jackie Chan Superstar

      LMAO@Hamsta. In other words, you don't know either. loveitloveitloveitloveitloveit.

      September 6, 2012 at 9:51 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Jeff Frank (R-Ohio) "The Lunatic Fringe"

    Beer is better than Clinton, because beer won't leave a taste in your mouth.

    September 6, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      I could be a brat and ask you, "what would you know about that taste in your mouth, Jeff?", but I won't, because I like you. 😉

      September 6, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      Okay, that was mean of me.
      I'm sorry, Jeff.

      September 6, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Jeff Frank (R-Ohio) "The Lunatic Fringe"

    I've said my piece. Goodbye! 😉

    September 6, 2012 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
  10. banasy©

    Jay jay, you ARE aware that Romney is a lawyer also, correct?
    A bloodsucking businessman lawyer.
    How did you miss that?

    September 6, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
  11. BOMBO ©

    BJ Clinton, he just won't go away. He's getting lots of mileage out of being a former prez.

    September 6, 2012 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      The fact that he's a brilliant politician doesn't hurt none, either...too bad he couldn't keep the beast reigned...

      September 6, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Crunchy®

    Obama is doing a much better job than everyone gives him credit for.

    September 6, 2012 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
  13. dazzle ©

    @Jayjay, still sitting in a mess of traffic with flooding and downpours. My drive home is 30 miles and I'm only halfway there. You know what happens if we drive through a flooded wash. This girl is no stupid motorist. My guy might come and rescue me as it is that bad. Stay dry my friend!

    September 6, 2012 at 8:12 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Jeff Frank (R-Ohio) "The Lunatic Fringe"

    banasy:
    It's O.K., you don't have to appologize. Clinton, like everybody has thier strengths and weaknesses. I know you like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.
    That's like beer. Beer is better than Obama, because beer won't eat up half your paycheck.

    September 6, 2012 at 8:16 pm | Report abuse |
  15. chrissy

    HE aint begging for nothing. No more so than Romney.

    September 6, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
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