December 14th, 2012
11:18 PM ET

Children and adults gunned down in Connecticut school massacre

  • 20 children, six adults and the shooter are dead after shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, on Friday morning
  • Three law enforcement officials say Adam Lanza, 20, was the shooter, and that he died apparently by his own hand
  • Suspect's mother, Nancy Lanza, found dead in suspect’s home in Newtown, law enforcement source says
  • Ryan Lanza, 24, older brother of Adam Lanza, questioned by police but not labeled a suspect, three law enforcement officials say
  • Below are the latest updates as they come to us. You also can read our story of the Connecticut school shooting

[Updated at 11:18 p.m. ET] Aimee Seaver, the mother of a first-grade girl at Sandy Hook and a fifth-grader who attends a different school, told CNN's Anderson Cooper that her children are having trouble dealing with what happened.

"It's a very rough night here," she said. "When your first-grader goes to bed and says, 'Mommy, is anyone from my class last year - are they all OK?' and you look at them and say, 'I'm not really sure,' it's a rough night to tell that to your 7-year-old."

Her younger daughter has asked a lot of questions about Principal Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung, who was killed.

“She got wind very quickly that something was wrong with our principal, which we didn’t tell her till just now that yes, she was definitely hurt and it wasn’t good," Seaver said. "It’s taking her a while. I think tomorrow will probably be harder for her.

“I also have a fifth-grader who came off the bus crying because she … had a sister who she was worried about, and … just basically left that school a few months ago. I think for a lot of those kids, they kind of are a little older and can get it a little bit faster, even though they weren’t in it.

“So the questions, I think, are coming. They’re not here, yet, especially for the littler ones. It started as I put them to bed tonight, the questions.”

[Updated at 10:50 p.m. ET] Janet Vollmer, a kindergarten teacher at the school, says she locked her classroom doors and - to keep her students calm - read them a story until the police came.

Vollmer, her 19 students and the adult helpers in her classroom were not injured.

"You could hear what sounded like pops, gunshots. Of course, I’m not going to tell that to 5-year-olds, so I said to them, ‘We’re going over in a safe area,'" Vollmer told CNN's Anderson Cooper. "And we read a story and we kept them calm, did a lockdown drill, closed the doors, locked (them), covered the windows, and kept the children with us.”

She said the children knew something unusual was going on.

“It didn’t seem a natural thing (to the children), although we do practice drills," Vollmer said. "We said, ‘We’re not really sure, but we’re going to be safe, because we’re sitting over here and we’re all together.’”

When asked how she kept cool, she said: “With 5-year-olds, you can’t lose it. I’ve been doing this for a long time, it’s my 18th year of teaching. My job was to keep them safe."

"After we got down to the firehouse, later on, as a lot of the events started to unfold throughout the day  I think some of (the children) realized the magnitude of what was going on.," she said. "They saw other people upset. We just held them close until their parents came and we released them.”

[Updated at 8:58 p.m. ET] Denise Correia says her daughter, a Sandy Hook Elementary second-grader who was not injured, heard the gunshots from the classroom she was in. The girl, while talking about the shooting with Correia, has been mentioning slain principal Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung "quite a lot."

"I think everyone's coping as best as they possibly can," Correia told CNN's Anderson Cooper. "I'm letting her talk. She's mentioned quite a bit about the principal, who many of us have worked with. I adored her. I worked with her personally with my business. That is one person I know we have lost on a personal level."

Correia said she has heard that her daughter's teacher, when the gunfire started, grabbed two kids from the hallway, put them into her classroom with other students, locked the door and gathered the students to a side of the room away from the gunfire. "She did a very heroic thing," Correia said of the teacher.

"The kids are going to suffer from this," Correia said. "... We lost a lot of babies today in this town, and there are a lot of very sad families."

[Updated at 8:20 p.m. ET] One injured victim, a female employee of the school, is "doing well," Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance said.

[Updated at 7:53 p.m. ET] The public release of the victims' names may come on Saturday morning, Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance says.

Vance said investigators have made preliminary identifications of the bodies, and that they've notified the appropriate families. But investigators want to make final, positive identifications before releasing the names to the media.

"It's a horrific scene," Vance said. "Between our mutual experience, we've never seen anything like this."

Vance said the next briefing from state police would be at 8 a.m. ET Saturday.

[Updated at 7:48 p.m. ET] U.S. Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Connecticut, says her thoughts and prayers are with the families.

"This really hits close to home," said DeLauro, who said she is visiting her grandchildren in Washington, D.C. "These beautiful young angels who had so much to live for - and it seems so senseless. Unthinkable that this could happen ,but it has, and now, as the president said, we come together, we wrap our arms around these families and hold them close to our hearts."

[Updated at 7:10 p.m. ET] Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, offered his prayers for the families of those affected by the Connecticut shooting, according to a release from the group.

The shooting "wrenches the hearts of all people," he said.

"Once again we speak against the culture of violence infecting our country even as we prepare to welcome the Prince of Peace at Christmas," Dolan said. "All of us are called to work for peace in our homes, our streets and our world, now more than ever.”

Faisal Ali, right, of Colorado Springs, Colorado, joins other people outside the White House in Washington, D.C., to participate in a vigil to remember the Connecticut school shooting on Friday.

[Updated at 6:51 p.m. ET] A law enforcement official familiar with the investigation says the three guns found at the shooting site were legally purchased by Nancy Lanza, the mother of the suspect in the shooting.

According to the law enforcement official, the Glock and Sig Sauer handguns were found inside the school with the deceased gunman. The Bushmaster was found in a car outside the school. The official did not know if the car was registered to the gunman, to his mother or to someone else.

The official echoed what other law enforcement officials have told CNN: That Adam Lanza was the suspected gunman, and that he died at the scene of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot.

[Updated at 6:44 p.m. ET] Three U.S. law enforcement officials, from different agencies, separately tonight identified the suspected shooter as Adam Lanza, contrary to what investigators had said previously. It is not clear what caused the confusion among investigators.

His older brother, Ryan, was taken into custody for general questioning from a home in Hoboken, New Jersey. Officials did not label Ryan Lanza as a suspect. It is unclear when he may be released.

One of the officials say Adam’s father was also taken in for similar questioning. There is no indication that the father will be charged. The official noted the father has remarried and lives with his new wife in a residence in the general area of Connecticut not too far from where his ex-wife lived.

[Updated at 6:43 p.m. ET] CNN’s Susan Candiotti is talking to investigators at the scene as they piece together exactly what happened and when. She says she’s learned that the mother of the suspected shooter, Nancy Lanza, was found dead in the suspect’s home in Newtown.

“Earlier we had information that she was found in the classroom. However, now I’m being told that in fact her body was found at the suspect's residence," Candiotti said. "We don't know whether she also lived there. We also don't know the timeline - when was she killed? Was she killed before the shooting began at the school? These are the things that authorities are still trying to piece together.”

[Updated at 6:02 p.m. ET] "Evil visited this community today," Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy just told reporters in Newtown. "And it's too early to speak of recovery, but each parent, each sibling, each member of the family has to understand that Connecticut - we're all in this together.

"We'll do whatever we can to overcome this event. We will get through it. But this is a terrible time for this community and these families."

[Updated at 5:14 p.m. ET] The mother of the suspected shooter was found dead in her son's residence in Newtown, a law enforcement source with detailed knowledge of the investigation told CNN. CNN had previously identified the mother as Nancy Lanza, a teacher at the Sandy Hook Elementary, according to law enforcement sources.

The source also told CNN there was no body found in the house searched by authorities in Hoboken, New Jersey. Two law enforcement sources say a man was taken away from questioning from that house. He is believed to be the brother of the shooter, according to the sources.

The first law enforcement source says the school shooter was dressed in "black battle fatigues and a military vest."

The Bushmaster .223 found at the scene is a semi automatic weapon, the source says. Two other weapons found were handguns, a Sig-Sauer and a Glock.

[Updated at 5:10 p.m. ET] We just learned that Governor Dannel P. Malloy will be speaking at Treadwell Park in Newtown, Connecticut, at 6:00 p.m. ET.

[Updated at 5:04  p.m. ET] We've just received a statement from U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan about the shooting:

"School shootings are always incomprehensible and horrific tragedies. But words fail to describe today's heartbreaking and savage attack at Sandy Hook Elementary School. As the father of two children in elementary school, I can barely imagine the anguish and losses suffered today by the Newtown community.

"Our hearts and prayers go out to every parent, child, teacher, staff member, and administrator at Sandy Hook and the surrounding community. And our thanks go out to every teacher, staff member, and first responder who cared for, comforted, and protected children from harm, often at risk to themselves. We will do everything in our power to assist and support the healing and recovery of Newtown."

[Updated at 5:01  p.m. ET] Law enforcement officials are not prepared to identify the shooter right now, Connecticut State PoliceLt. J. Paul Vance said in a press conference.

Vance said that they are working diligently at the crime scene as well as with the medical examiner to identify the victims.

"We will leave no stone unturned," Vance added about the entire investigation.

[Updated at 4:54 p.m. ET] We are now being told there was no body found in the Hoboken, New Jersey, home as had been previously reported.

[Updated at 4:23 p.m. ET] We have learned that Connecticut police have searched the suspected gunman's home and place of employment in the wake of Friday's mass shooting, Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

They have also interviewed his friends, relatives and "everyone who possibly had any connection with him whatsoever," he said.

[Updated at 4:11 p.m. ET] Police did not discharge their weapons at any time when responding at the school, police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. However, he could not confirm whether the suspected shooter - who died at the scene - killed himself, saying that would have to be determined by the medical examiner.

[Updated at 4:07 p.m. ET] Mark Kelly, who's lived through this kind of horror, has issued a statement. He's the husband of former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords who was shot in the head at a massacre in Tucson, Arizona, in January 2011. Here's what he said:

I just woke up in my hotel room in Beijing, China, to learn that another mass shooting has taken place - this time at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims and the entire community of Newtown, CT. I just spoke to Gabby, and she sends her prayers from Tucson.

As we mourn, we must sound a call for our leaders to stand up and do what is right. This time our response must consist of more than regret, sorrow, and condolence. The children of Sandy Hook Elementary School and all victims of gun violence deserve leaders who have the courage to participate in a meaningful discussion about our gun laws - and how they can be reformed and better enforced to prevent gun violence and death in America. This can no longer wait.

[Updated at 3:56 p.m. ET] The principal killed was Dawn Hochsprung. We received this photo via

[Updated at 3:54 p.m. ET] Three guns were found at the scene, CNN's Susan Candiotti reports. According to a law enforcement source, the third weapon found on the scene was a .223 Bushmaster. The other weapons, previously reported, are a Glock, and a Sig-Sauer. No word on the models of Glock or Sig-Sauer.

[Updated at 3:51 p.m. ET] A federal law enforcement source tells CNN's John King the information from the scene is that the shooter arrived and headed directly toward and to his mother’s classroom. That and the other information now emerging - another family member killed, police interviews - lead them to believe his mother was the primary target. But they note he also came armed with clear intention of mass killing.

[Updated at 3:45 p.m. ET] There were a total of 27 people dead at the school, Lt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police said.

Six adults, 20 children and the shooter were killed. Eighteen students were pronounced dead at the scene, and two others died at the hospital, said Lt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police. The six adults died at the scene.

[Updated at 3:43 p.m. ET] Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance has just said that the shooting took place in one section of the school and in two rooms.

[Updated at 3:33 p.m. ET] Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy called the mass shooting "a tragedy of unspeakable terms."

"Earlier today a tragedy of unspeakable terms played itself out in this community," Malloy said, adding that "you can never be prepared for this kind of incident.

"A number of our citizens, beautiful children, had their life taken away from them as well as adults whose responsibility it was to educate and supervise those children," Malloy said.

[Updated at 3:22 p.m. ET] It appears that another member of the alleged shooter's family is dead. A senior law enforcement official familiar with the investigation says a brother of the alleged shooter was found dead in a home searched in Hoboken, New Jersey. We already knew the suspect's mother was found dead in the elementary school.

(6:43 p.m. ET update - CNN’s Susan Candiotti is talking to investigators and has now learned that the mother of the suspected shooter was found dead in the suspect’s home in Newtown. No brother of the suspect has been found dead, and no one has been found dead in the home in Hoboken, New Jersey, investigators say.)

[Updated at 3:16 p.m. ET] From the president: "I offered Gov. Malloy my condolences on behalf of the nation."

The president appears to be emotional, he's wiping his eye.

Here's more of what he's saying:

"We've endured too many of these tragedies in the past few years. Each time I learn the news I react not as a president but as anybody else would as a parent.

"That was especially true today.

"I know there's not a parent in America that doesn't feel the same overwhelming grief that I do.

"The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old.

"They had their entire lives ahead of them, birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own.

Obama sighed.

"Among the fallen were also teachers - men and women who devoted their lives to helping our children fulfill their dreams. Our hearts are broken today for the parents and grandparents, sisters and brothers of these children and the families of the adults we lost.

"Our hearts are broken for the parents of the survivors as well, for as blessed as they are to have their children home tonight, they know that their children’s innocence has been torn away from them too early, and there are no words that will ease their pain.

"As a country, we have been through this too many times. Whether it’s an elementary school in Newtown, or a shopping mall in Oregon, or a temple in Wisconsin, or a movie theater in Aurora, or a street corner in Chicago - these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children. And we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics.

"This evening Michelle and I will do what every parent in America will do - hug our children a little tighter and tell them that we love them.

"There are families in Connecticut that cannot do that tonight and they need all of us tonight.

"May God bless the memory of the victims and in the words of scripture heal the brokenhearted and bind up their wounds."

[Updated at 3:14 p.m. ET] The president will talk soon. You can watch him on our live stream here.

[Updated at 3:12 p.m. ET] President Obama has ordered flags to be lowered to half-staff as a mark of respect for the victims “of the senseless acts of violence perpetrated on December 14, 2012, in Newtown, Connecticut,” according to a release from the White House.

[Updated at 3:09 p.m. ET] The suspect's mother was shot and killed at the school, according to source close to the investigation. She was a teacher there.

And we now know that Ryan Lanza, the suspected gunman, was 24.

(6:44 p.m. ET update - (Three U.S. law enforcement officials say the suspected gunman was Adam Lanza, not his brother Ryan Lanza as officials had previously said. It is not clear what caused the confusion among investigators. Ryan Lanza was picked up from a home in Hoboken, New Jersey, on Friday and has been questioned but has not been labeled as a suspect, officials now say. Also, CNN’s Susan Candiotti is talking to investigators and has now learned that the mother of the suspected shooter was found dead in the suspect’s home in Newtown)

[Updated at 3:01 p.m. ET] The principal and guidance counselor at Sandy Hook Elementary School were both killed during the shooting, according to a witness that spoke to CNN.

[Updated at 2:52 p.m. ET] We have just learned via a tweet from House Speaker John Boehner that flags at the U.S. Capitol will be lowered.


[Updated at 2:47 p.m. ET] President Obama will make a statement on the tragedy at 3:15 p.m. ET. We'll have that live on CNN TV and right here.

[Updated at 2:45 p.m. ET] Various locations are being used as staging areas around Newtown. This is outside the Newtown Methodist Church near the school where a woman is hugging a child.

[Updated at 2:39 p.m. ET] Federal law enforcement officials have told CNN's John King that the shooting happened quickly and happened in a concentrated area.

[Updated at 2:32 p.m. ET] Connecticut Gov. Malloy will be in Newtown and talk about the tragedy today at 3:30 p.m. ET.

[Updated at 2:20 p.m. ET] We are now hearing from CNN's Mary Snow, who is reporting from outside the suspect's home, that dozens of law enforcement officials are on the scene.

Neighbors are "shaken," Snow said.

[Updated at 2:11 p.m. ET] CNN's Susan Candiotti has just reported that a law enforcement official tells her the suspect is named Ryan Lanza and he is in his 20s.

[Updated at 2:09 p.m. ET] We're hearing even more devastating news out of Newtown, Connecticut. CNN's Susan Candiotti has been told that 18 to 20 of the dead are children.

[Updated at 2:07 p.m. ET] CNN's Jessica Yellin is reporting that we're likely to hear from President Obama today on the school shooting, according to a senior administration official. We don't know when our where we may hear from President Obama.

[Updated at 2:04 p.m. ET] Lisa Procaccini, the parent of an 8-year-old at the school, tells CNN that her daughter said school officials kept her calm during the shooting and told her the loud noise was hammering going on.

Eventually police came in and let her daughter and her teacher leave the school building.

"I'm even kind of numb about what's going on," she told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "I'm in a state of shock. I don't know how Im going to handle having [my daughter] know ... about the whole situation."

[Updated at 1:57 p.m. ET]  The death toll is closer to 30 than 20, a federal law enforcement source in Washington told CNN's John King.  Most of those killed are children, the source said.

The source also said the suspected gunman, who is dead, had a connection to the school. He would not elaborate on that connection. The source is in touch with authorities on the scene.

[Updated at 1:53 p.m. ET] Congresswoman-elect Elizabeth Esty, who was recently won a seat representing a district that includes Newtown, Connecticut, just released the following statement on the tragedy:

As a mother, I can only begin to imagine what the students, parents, teachers and staff of Sandy Hook Elementary must be experiencing. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone impacted by this horrific tragedy. While details are still emerging, I hope for the safety and well being of the children, teachers and staff at Sandy Hook Elementary and for the Newtown community.

[Updated at 1:51 p.m. ET] We have just learned that the suspected shooter is 20-years-old, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation tells CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

[Updated at 1:47 p.m. ET] A few more details from the White House press briefing earlier. White House spokesman Jay Carney said while today is not the day to debate gun policy, an assault weapons ban "does remain a commitment" of President Obama.

[Updated at 1:45 p.m. ET]  We are now learning that a male is being questioned by investigators, but he is not being called a suspect, CNN's Susan Candiotti reports.

[Updated at 1:42 p.m. ET] Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance said the shooter is dead inside the school.


Vance said there are a number of fatalities that includes both children and adults. He did not add more details about how many people were killed during the school shooting.

[Updated at 1:41 p.m. ET] Police have now begun their briefing on the shooting.

[Updated at 1:32 p.m. ET] We're hearing more from the scene of the massacre through tweets and interviews.



[Updated at 1:23 p.m. ET] President Obama has spoken to FBI Director Robert Mueller and Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy to get the latest information and express his condolences, White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

[Updated at 1:21 p.m. ET] We're now hearing that it may be a while for the briefing from the police.

[Updated at 1:17 p.m. ET] This was the scene from the air earlier, taken by News 12 Connecticut, with emergency vehicles in the school parking lot.

[Updated at 1:09 p.m. ET] The police are set to give a news conference soon where we'll learn more. We'll bring that to you as soon as it starts.

[Updated at 1:07 p.m. ET] Here's the chilling account told to CNN's Meredith Artley of what happened at the school.

[Updated at 12:59 p.m. ET] Many people are talking again about gun control. But White House spokesman Jay Carney isn't joining in for now.

"I think it's important on a day like today to view this as I know the president, as a father does and I as a father and others who are parents certainly do, which is to feel enormous sympathy for families that are affected and to do everything we can to support state and local law enforcement and support those who are enduring what appears to be a very tragic event.  There is, I'm sure, will be, rather, a day for discussion of the usual Washington policy debates but I don't think today is that day.

[Updated at 12:57 p.m. ET] From the News Times reporter at the school:


[Updated at 12:48 p.m. ET] "Close to 20” people have been killed, including at least 10 children, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation says.

[Updated at 12:47 p.m. ET] President Barack Obama has been informed of the school shooting in Connecticut and will receive regular updates throughout the day, the White House said on Friday.

[Updated at 12:27 p.m. ET] The mom who spoke to CNN's Meredith Artley said she heard "at least 100 rounds" being fired.

The shooting began about 9:35 a.m., the parent said. There was a "pop pop pop" in the hall outside the room. Three people went out of the room into the hall where the sounds had come from. "Only one person came back," we were told.

The witness told Artley that she then called 911. She said she never saw the shooter but she later was escorted outside the room past two bodies lying in blood.

[Updated at 12:20 p.m. ET] A third-grader describes the shooting to WTNH:

[Updated at 12:16 p.m. ET] Two adults were killed, according to a parent who was at the school during the incident, and who talked to our colleague Meredith Artley.

[Updated at 12:12 p.m. ET] We just got this from U.S. Senator-elect Chris Murphy:

"I am shocked and saddened by the horrific news from Sandy Hook Elementary School this morning, and I pray that kids, teachers, staff, and families reach safety as quickly as possible. While we don't have much information right now, our thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones."

[Updated at 12:05 p.m. ET] The shooter's body is in a classroom, a source with knowledge of the investigation tells CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

[Updated at 12:02 p.m. ET] Multiple local media are reporting there are fatalities. We're checking.

[Updated at noon ET] News Times reporter Libor Jany reports that all Newtown schools are on lockdown.


[Updated at 11:58 a.m. ET] Danbury Hospital confirms it's treating some victims. It says this on its Facebook page:

To date, three patients have been transported to Danbury Hospital from the scene. Out of abundance of caution and not because of any direct threat Danbury Hospital is under lockdown. This allows us simply to focus on the important work at hand.

[Updated at 11:54 a.m. ET] Connecticut House Rep. John Frey has nieces and a nephew at the school and is tweeting updates.


[Updated at 11:47 a.m. ET] The dad of a student at the school told CNN affiliate WTNH there were about 600 pupils in the building at the time of the shooting.

[Updated at 11:45 a.m. ET] At least three people were wounded and are in "very serious" condition at a hospital in Danbury, Connecticut, that town's mayor, Mark Boughton told CNN. He couldn't say whether the victims were children.

[Updated at 11:44 a.m. ET] Andrew Doba, Director of Communications with Connecticut Governor Malloy's office, says they are  coordinating with local authorities and state police. They continue to monitor developments in Newtown. The governor is in Connecticut today.

[Updated at 11:40 a.m. ET] We're getting live pictures from the scene from CNN affiliates.

[Updated at 11:34 a.m. ET] The shooter is dead, a source with knowledge of the investigation, tells CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

Police have recovered two weapons from him, the source added.

It's not known whether police killed the alleged shooter or he took his own life. The source says one weapon recovered is a Glock and the other is a Sig Sauer.

[Updated at 11:27 a.m. ET] The Hartford Courant, citing police, said an unspecified number of people had been shot. The nature of their injuries was unclear, the newspaper said. But it cited police in saying one person had "numerous gunshot wounds."

[Updated at 11:19 a.m. ET] Affiliate WTNH says children are being taken to a nearby firehouse.


[Updated at 11:10 a.m. ET] Details are still really sketchy, but we now have a photo from the Newtown Bee of children being led from the scene.

[Updated at 11:03 a.m. ET] We're still getting details in of how many people may have been hurt.

Newtown is southwest of Hartford:

[Updated at 10:53 a.m. ET] Sandy Hook school is on lockdown and students are not being evacuated, a Newtown police spokesman tells us.

[Posted at 10:30 a.m. ET] Breaking news coming in - Connecticut State Police are responding to reports of a shooting at a Newtown elementary school in southwestern Connecticut, according to police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance.

We'll bring you more details as soon as we get them.

Our affiliates in the area are saying the school is the Sandy Hook Elementary School.

CT Now says injuries are being reported. 

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  1. 1rogerl

    Yet another psycho to give gun ownership a bad name. Just remember that the Second Admendment has nothing to do with these idiots doing what they do. They would get guns no matter what laws are in place. Maybe if parents would raise their kids instead of "combat" video games we would all be a little safer.....

    December 14, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • flip

      And a lot more safer if guns were more difficult to get. But, hey what do you care.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • mork

      blah blah blah blah blah blah

      December 14, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • weiss

      what are you talking about ? raising their kids instead of video games ? you do not even make sense.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      No individual needs to own an assault rifle.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • county

      Not true in the least. Most psychos use weapons of convenience, guns are very very easy to get a hold of. Making them harder to own or only allow non automatic weapons will reduce the death toll of these horrible incidents. The second amendment is archaic and dangerous, it should be removed completely.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Daremonai

      You might have a bit more credibility if you didn't try to deflect one moral panic into another.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • o_O

      Ironic that you chastise gun critics and then go and blame video games for something like this. Hope everyone is alright.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
    • cd

      Geez, ever heard of blaming the victims? If this country weren't so awash in guns, it would be a lot harder for the sick murderers to do this every couple of months. An elementary school. Kindergardeners. This is so awful.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
    • penguinr90

      I like how gun advocates say that it wasn't the gun or second amendment rights and stuff like that. How would you know that bad people will still find guns? Look at places like Europe and NYC where no one is allowed to own guns. Do you see massive shootings like we have in the U.S. for the last year. If it makes it easier for you to sleep at night saying these things then that is good for you but tell that to a mother who's child got shot today and see what she says about the rights of people to own guns

      December 14, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  2. Daniela

    I hate guns. I had a sinking feeling (as I do almost every day) when dropping my son off today (not the same school). So tired of having to live in this ridiculous world where no one values human life. Get rid of the guns already...this is elementary school? Please dear God I pray that no one was hurt.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Ryan

      Guns are not the problem. if the teachers all carried guns and knew how to use them he wouldnt have even tried becaue he woudl have been dead after the first shot was fired. people not owning guns and knowing how to use themi s the problem. they banned them in the UK. all that happened was everyone got stabbed and criminals still had guns.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Tim

      So you say that the issue is that no one values human life (agree), and that we need to get rid of the guns.... where's the logic there? If someone doesn't value human life, their choice of weapon isn't your issue, it's the individual.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • RM

      You want to take my second ammendment rights? I want to take your first ammendment rights. You are simply a coward looking for the government to make you a slave. Get a life.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Wardo

      Last year about 8,000 people were killed in accidental or non-accidental gun violence. Last year about 16,000 people died on the highways was the result of alcohol. Do you also advocate bringing back prohibition?

      December 14, 2012 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Sam


      I can understand why you're scared, I would be too dropping my kids off at a public school, I'm either going to send my kids to private school or just not have kids...

      December 14, 2012 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
  3. Ryan

    First off this isnt a gun issue, look at China. Second of all part of this is due to constant media attention to everything. Third, this is what happens when the government doesnt do their job and the country goes to crap. eventually crazy people snap and do something absurd! Good job US Govt. Way to represent and not do your job. hope you like those 250k paychecks to work 10 days a year.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • not as nuts as you

      What in the Heck does this have to do with what the gov't is doing wrong

      December 14, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • EastCoast Mike

      No of course not...Its NEVER a gun issue.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Bob

      Blaming the government is worse than blaming guns. In the end it is still in the hands of the guy with the gun.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Clarke

      What you talking about? What about China? What does the government have to do with this?

      December 14, 2012 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Really?

      You are seriously trying to blame the govt for this? Now the govt is supposed to do what? Identify the mentally ill and lock them away? How much govt do you need in your life?

      December 14, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Father of two

      The stabbing incident in China? Last I checked, many injured, no fatalities. Imagine if the attacker had a gun.

      Nice try, but you're incredibly foolish.

      December 14, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • moie

      China?The attack with knives in China only cause injuries but the GUN cause 30 deaths in US

      December 14, 2012 at 7:31 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Kevin Nivek

    This school is only a few miles from where I live. Nice to see this kind of nonsense is now reaching my state.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
  5. USMC80


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  6. sss

    I need to be able to carry my nina!....And blast these fools who keep doing this to innocent people.!

    December 14, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • John

      You will, by virtue of your actions, reduce yourself to the fool that you seemingly resent. Smart. Oh so very smart.

      December 14, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Rob

    When have you ever heard of a "gun-toting" American actually prevent a crime because he has the "right" to bear arms? Never, because they are too cowardly and probably pushed a kid in front of them. All of you John Wayne wannabes are a joke to the rest of the world.

    In the meantime, how about you direct your concern to the victims of this event and stop preaching some expired civil freedom that is completely irrelevant to modern society. Cheers.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Ryan

      a 90 year old woman stopped a shooter in a church because she carried a gun! do some research you bum

      December 14, 2012 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • mike

      actually it happens abiding gun owners have prevented a large percentage of crime in various cities.You don't know about this..because..well you probably don't read lol.You also use can as your only source of information.Step outside your box,there's a big world out there.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • jon

      Every 13 seconds someone uses a gun to protect theselves you idiot. These stories just don't get in the liberal biased news. Do some research before posting.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • killians

      Ummm...well there was an instance a while ago where two robbers were deterred from robbing a small casino after a older gentlemen drew on them with a .22 handgun that was licensed.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Freddy

      Umm... DGU (Defensive Gun Use) happens every single day in this country – thousands of times a year. Look it up and perhaps consider speaking factually instead of emotionally next time lest your oust yourself again as completely ignorant.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
    • LyRik


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    • Pamela Wilson

      Well said!

      December 14, 2012 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      Ocala, FL, mid July 2012 – Elderly man thwarts two armed men attempting to rob an internet cafe. Five seconds and Google could have saved you from looking like a moron.
      And when have YOU ever heard of criminals obeying the law? If someone wants guns, they will get them. Take a look at this country's marijuana laws. FAIL

      December 14, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
    • ho hmm

      Do you even think before you speak? Wow, just wow.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Calidip

      Actually, it happens on a daily basis. Regular armed citizens actually stop more crimes in progress than police do.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
    • danbrew

      There actually have been instances of law-abiding gun owners stopping tragedies like this. Search for the story on Principal Joel Myrick who stopped a shooter at his school with his gun.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
    • the-guy

      Rob, Im a "gun-toting" American, I also served 12 years in the USMC. Two tours afgan. And one in Iraq, I would ( and have ) drawn and used a firearm in selfdefence and in defense of of my brethren, wat you are saying everyday people could do will be the hardest thing you or anyone will have to do in your life

      December 14, 2012 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Rob

      Yet, incidents like this still, among so many others, happen daily. Gun-toting Americans haven't put a dent in exorbitant gun crime rates.

      For those of you whining about media bias, I don't visit CNN or other American news sites. I use local media sites, which have no "gun" agenda, because our gun crimes are low and we don't allow guns to run rampant in our country.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      @ Rob – In one post you are preaching about how gun ownership in America is ineffective, and in the next you are back peddling and telling us you only monitor local media. Way to completely invalidate your opinion.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Freddy

      Furthermore, the thousand of "DGUs" that happen in this country are FAR more pervasive in number than any and all criminal shootings. Many of those don't even involve actually firing but simply squashing a threat. Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of those incidents never make it to the press – particularly mainstream press. Many others, are simply not even reported. They're simply not newsworthy to the Leftist, gun-grabbing major news outlets and they don't further the disarmament agenda of those wealthy powerful folks behind the media outlets.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:35 am | Report abuse |
  8. thewiz71

    When will politicians take a look at what's going on, cut ties with the NRA, and work together to frame a reasonable gun control policy in this country?!?!?

    December 14, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Blokhayev

      Because governments, despite their most benevolent intentions, eventually devolve into tyranny and implement "reasonable PEOPLE control policies".

      December 14, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Report abuse |
  9. JP

    This country has a lot of blood on its hands

    December 14, 2012 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
  10. Alyssa

    I couldn't imagine being a parent of a student there and hearing this news.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  11. cedar rapids

    and apparently none of the kids were killed, wonder if the same result would have happened with a gun.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Ryan

      The only person dead here was the guy with the gun who deserved it. One person went to the hospital with a shot to the foot. and if you didnt know a bunch of those children in china are in critical condtion. pretty good chance one will die. You're ignorant

      December 14, 2012 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
    • GHsn

      Two 9 mil pistols. You don't call those guns? Awesome.

      December 14, 2012 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jillian

      24 kids were killed.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • motley

      how about a homemade bomb? many more could have died,...

      December 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
  12. R.U. Kidding

    If gun people want less guns laws and the rationale is guns aren't the problem because people pull the trigger, then why are hand grenades illegal? They don't do anything until a person pulls the pin, right?

    December 14, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  13. Marie

    people... it's not guns that kill people, it's people that kill people! Just because I stand in a garage does not make me a car! If we outlaw guns then only the outlaws will have guns!

    December 14, 2012 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Cayeres209

      Marie...does the bullets come out of the trigger fingers of people or out of guns?

      December 14, 2012 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Unabashed Progressive

      IIt's true – guns don't kill people. Easy access to guns kills people – by people with guns. marie – maybe it will be your kid or your husband next...but you'll be fine with that, knowing that a gun didn't kill them... just a person with easy access to a gun...

      December 14, 2012 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
  14. get a clue

    guns dont kill people, people kill people. regulating guns wont change anything. you need to regulate people, and tell me... HOW DO YOU REGULATE CRAZY?!

    December 14, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      You are an idiot. Your stupid gun laws allow everyone to have a gun, these children didn't deserve to die. It's people like you that should be shot.

      December 14, 2012 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Katherine

      Since you can't regulate crazy, and you can't regulate job losses, spouse losses, other issues that can temporarily drive people over the edge, then SELLING GUNS SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION

      It is absolutely disgusting that we allow guns to be sold, period. Republicans have allowed the selling of guns to flourish and they're backed by filthy, backward, illiterate white trash. The selling of guns needs to end RIGHT NOW!

      December 14, 2012 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • cpaw

      that's just it... you CAN'T regulate crazy. But, you CAN regulate guns. There's no reason at all that we have assault style guns out there and there's no reason why it's easier to get a gun license than a driver's license in many cases!! It's shameful! When the Founding Fathers wrote that we have a "Right To Bear Arms", they NEVER expected such weapons. They had muskets that the user was LUCKY to hit a target with one bullet in one minute!!

      Know the WH is saying we need to come together for the victims and put gun control conversations aside... and I agree... it's a tragedy that will stay with these families and kids forever. But, the problem with us as a country and a larger community is that we ONLY talk about gun control when these horrible tragedies happen. Like all the other incidents (AZ, Columbine, Mall shooting this week, NFL player shooting GF, etc., etc., etc.), as a larger community, we will still discuss–but will fade in our memories somewhat ... while the smaller community directly impacted will never forget.... BUT, we'll remember when the next tragedy happens. The debates will start again. Months will go by and the conversations will once again fade....

      December 14, 2012 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • sue

      you stupid gun people, the ones who swear we all need to be equipped, equipped for THIS!!! Someone needs to stand up to the gun lobby....Guns do kill people,,,it was a person who had a gun....not a lollipop in their hand...

      December 14, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sad :'(

      I can't understand why someone would do this!! I live really close to the clackamas mall and this is really awful!! I don't understand!!! CHILDREN!!!!!!! We need to fall on our knees and ask God to forgive this sick nation!

      December 14, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • derp

      "guns dont kill people"

      Maybe we should inscribe that on every one of those children's caskets.

      December 14, 2012 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • stanitan

      Don't let them get guns for starters.

      December 14, 2012 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • kdeutschler

      you are the one that needs to get a clue....rapid firing guns kill LOTS of people, quickly. Why aren't bombs legal too????
      For the same don't have to outlaw all guns....just those that can take out masses with one swoop. Got it??

      December 14, 2012 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      I'll tell you how you regulate crazy people. Its called mental health care, in conjunction with anti-depressants, or anti-psychotics. On top of that, how about some common sense gun regulations, such as; 10 round maximum clips, and an assault riffle ban.

      Keep your damn guns, just don't pretend that you need 100 round clips. If you can't hit something in 10 shots, then you shouldn't be shooting a gun!

      December 14, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason Jones

      Outlaw the guns Totally. We dont need guns and the people who own them.

      December 14, 2012 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Keith T. Maxwell

      People kill people.... With guns. You can't regulate crazy, but you can strive to keep guns out of the hands of crazies.

      December 14, 2012 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • tim.p

      Correction You should say" people with guns need to be regulated"

      December 14, 2012 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • here's a clue

      here's a clue from the folks at Harvard, which I'm guessing are smarter than you.

      December 14, 2012 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • CDL

      With gun controls like those in Canada and Great Britain, the Crazies would not be able to kill so many in such a short time. After so many similar tragedies in recent months in the U.S. I cannot believe some are still spouting that worn-out "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" crap.

      December 14, 2012 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • shwebell not allowing them access to guns!

      December 14, 2012 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Neighbor Bob

      So guns don't kill people? Wash the blood off your hands you moron.

      December 14, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • iamgrunge

      You don't. You keep these deadly weapons out of the hands of criminals AND civilians. Moron.

      December 14, 2012 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dhaval

      Agree Guns dont kill people, ppl do. On that accounts RDX and Tanks also dont kill ppl, but those who use them do. Should we legalized them and let every citizen have them based on 2nd ammendment as well??

      This question is to all those who defend automatic, semi-automatic guns for a civilian..

      December 14, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • dankaeck

      It appears that CNN is the only outlet reporting (at this time) that the mother was murdered at her home rather than in her classroom. This is stands as an incredible contradiction to the other reports. I'd be very disappointed in CNN if you have this wrong.

      December 14, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Justme

      The same way you regulate religion. Seems our leaders bring in prayer at a time like this, but want to outlaw our daily recognition of the greater power that guides our moral compass

      December 14, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • EnjaySea

      Guns don't kill people. People with guns kill people.

      December 14, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • ShawnDH

      People with guns kill people!

      How do you regulate CRAZY? Common sense gun control is a start. How about re-enacting the ban onsemi-automatic assault weapons like the one used TODAY?

      December 14, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim

      I'm tired of hearing this "guns don't kill people". Well, not kidding. But, many people use guns to kill people. Unlike other tools, guns were invented and manufactured for the intention of killing. They are effective at this task and far less damage would be possible without the access to guns. Why do people deny that fact or disregard it outright? Listen, I think people have a right to defend their life and this may mean the use of a gun. However, gun control is to stop making so-easily available the assault weapons. Those are not needed for self protection or sport, and while many people may be responsible owners, clearly it's not worth it when it comes to these weapons that are intended to cause greater damage in a short amount of time. There was a time when anyone could get even a fully automatic assault rifle, and no waiting period to see if they are a violent criminal or mentally insane person. Do you think that law was bad somehow? And I don't mean a flimsy answer about how it's a "slippery slope" (even if you agree with the law). I seriously don't get this black and white mindset about the gun control issues. No president or law will take people's guns away, so how many do you need to buy per week to feel you have freedom, how many assault rifles?

      December 14, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cat

      You said it!!!

      December 14, 2012 at 6:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • vs101

      get a clue – This strawman argument keeps getting repeated ad nauseum. No one is under the delusion that that guns by themselves kill. The issue is that lethal weapons such as guns that can make such crimes much more easy to commit. Nuts from organizations like the NRA have promoted the tremendous proliferation of arms of all kinds in this country that it is becoming an armed camp. There are a bunch of nutcases, driven by hatred, bigotry, ignorance greed and stupidity that have been cultivated for political reasons that are armed to the teeth. When these nuts have spent all that money on such weapons (which most can barely afford) they are ticking timebombs waiting to go off. If saner minds don't speak up and make inroads in regulating firearms, our future looks bleak indeed.

      December 14, 2012 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • reason

      Easy answer genius,
      give people more education and access to mental health care.
      Oh wait – the same people that want guns also dont want to support crazy people getting care.

      December 14, 2012 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Vivek

      Why cant they ban bullets that kill people. Let people buy guns to,protectthemselves but sell them bullets that may be hurt but not kill someone. We need to stop these

      December 14, 2012 at 6:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sanster89

      The answer to all of this has become amazingly simple and I still can't believe I am saying this. The shootings by all these crazy people are NOT going to decline. We will read more and more stories like this. There are no simple mechanisms except ONE-start arming ourselves. MAYBE a armed teacher could've taken this destructive nut job out before he killed more. We need to LOOSEN our gun control laws so more can be carried in where crowds are. Call me a nut job if you want but the pattern has been set-a gunman will go off in bigger places. Maybe a sporting event, concert or even a college graduation but it's coming. Seriously ask yourself this one question-

      Do you want to lose a loved one when a weapon nearby might save them?

      December 14, 2012 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • EdR

      People with guns kill people. When people start killing people with rocks, we can worry about regulating rocks.

      December 14, 2012 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Winston5

      it must be exhausting to tell yourself stuff like that the day this kind of thing happens, no?

      December 14, 2012 at 8:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rahul

      :'( RIP little angels

      December 14, 2012 at 8:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • russ

      Crazy has nothing to do with it. This guy, like all of those that do these things, are evil and are set on hurting others. That you can't regulate either.

      December 14, 2012 at 9:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • PawPaw

      To: Get a Clue
      I TOTALLY AGREE!!! The "gun" did not get up in the morning and decide to shoot those children.... the monster did!!!... Gun control is not the answer! Bad people will get guns no matter what! The good people need guns to protect us from these evil people!! WE NEED TO STEP UP SECURITY IN EVERY SCHOOL !!! Instead of spending billions of dollars on "war"... the government needs to protect our American children and our schools.... SPEND SOME MONEY and add electric gates all around the schools, metal detectors, and ONE entrance with 2 guards at these entrances with emergency buttons to the Police departments!! This is the only solution in fighting this.... SECURE THE SCHOOLS!! Aren't our children worth every dollar we spend????

      December 14, 2012 at 10:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • David

      I really don't get. I wasn't born here in the US but I love my adopted country (of 25 yrs) I am still boggled that these kind of events continue to happen with disturbing frequency and there is still very little meaningful debate about gun control. I'm sure it is tremendous fun to hunt deer at weekends to blow off steam but if it means the death of a single child I don't understand how you could live with yourself. Why is owning a gun so meaningful that it could possibly justify even a tiny portion of this blame.....I just don't get it.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • lmori

      um, you regulate people by creating laws such as those requiring background checks before they can purchase firearms

      December 15, 2012 at 12:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Kathleen

      You don't put a gun in it's hand!

      December 15, 2012 at 6:57 am | Report abuse |
  15. caesarbc

    None of the news agencies are even bothering to report this.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
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