December 14th, 2012
11:18 PM ET

Children and adults gunned down in Connecticut school massacre

  • 20 children, six adults and the shooter are dead after shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, on Friday morning
  • Three law enforcement officials say Adam Lanza, 20, was the shooter, and that he died apparently by his own hand
  • Suspect's mother, Nancy Lanza, found dead in suspect’s home in Newtown, law enforcement source says
  • Ryan Lanza, 24, older brother of Adam Lanza, questioned by police but not labeled a suspect, three law enforcement officials say
  • Below are the latest updates as they come to us. You also can read our story of the Connecticut school shooting

[Updated at 11:18 p.m. ET] Aimee Seaver, the mother of a first-grade girl at Sandy Hook and a fifth-grader who attends a different school, told CNN's Anderson Cooper that her children are having trouble dealing with what happened.

"It's a very rough night here," she said. "When your first-grader goes to bed and says, 'Mommy, is anyone from my class last year - are they all OK?' and you look at them and say, 'I'm not really sure,' it's a rough night to tell that to your 7-year-old."

Her younger daughter has asked a lot of questions about Principal Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung, who was killed.

“She got wind very quickly that something was wrong with our principal, which we didn’t tell her till just now that yes, she was definitely hurt and it wasn’t good," Seaver said. "It’s taking her a while. I think tomorrow will probably be harder for her.

“I also have a fifth-grader who came off the bus crying because she … had a sister who she was worried about, and … just basically left that school a few months ago. I think for a lot of those kids, they kind of are a little older and can get it a little bit faster, even though they weren’t in it.

“So the questions, I think, are coming. They’re not here, yet, especially for the littler ones. It started as I put them to bed tonight, the questions.”

[Updated at 10:50 p.m. ET] Janet Vollmer, a kindergarten teacher at the school, says she locked her classroom doors and - to keep her students calm - read them a story until the police came.

Vollmer, her 19 students and the adult helpers in her classroom were not injured.

"You could hear what sounded like pops, gunshots. Of course, I’m not going to tell that to 5-year-olds, so I said to them, ‘We’re going over in a safe area,'" Vollmer told CNN's Anderson Cooper. "And we read a story and we kept them calm, did a lockdown drill, closed the doors, locked (them), covered the windows, and kept the children with us.”

She said the children knew something unusual was going on.

“It didn’t seem a natural thing (to the children), although we do practice drills," Vollmer said. "We said, ‘We’re not really sure, but we’re going to be safe, because we’re sitting over here and we’re all together.’”

When asked how she kept cool, she said: “With 5-year-olds, you can’t lose it. I’ve been doing this for a long time, it’s my 18th year of teaching. My job was to keep them safe."

"After we got down to the firehouse, later on, as a lot of the events started to unfold throughout the day  I think some of (the children) realized the magnitude of what was going on.," she said. "They saw other people upset. We just held them close until their parents came and we released them.”

[Updated at 8:58 p.m. ET] Denise Correia says her daughter, a Sandy Hook Elementary second-grader who was not injured, heard the gunshots from the classroom she was in. The girl, while talking about the shooting with Correia, has been mentioning slain principal Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung "quite a lot."

"I think everyone's coping as best as they possibly can," Correia told CNN's Anderson Cooper. "I'm letting her talk. She's mentioned quite a bit about the principal, who many of us have worked with. I adored her. I worked with her personally with my business. That is one person I know we have lost on a personal level."

Correia said she has heard that her daughter's teacher, when the gunfire started, grabbed two kids from the hallway, put them into her classroom with other students, locked the door and gathered the students to a side of the room away from the gunfire. "She did a very heroic thing," Correia said of the teacher.

"The kids are going to suffer from this," Correia said. "... We lost a lot of babies today in this town, and there are a lot of very sad families."

[Updated at 8:20 p.m. ET] One injured victim, a female employee of the school, is "doing well," Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance said.

[Updated at 7:53 p.m. ET] The public release of the victims' names may come on Saturday morning, Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance says.

Vance said investigators have made preliminary identifications of the bodies, and that they've notified the appropriate families. But investigators want to make final, positive identifications before releasing the names to the media.

"It's a horrific scene," Vance said. "Between our mutual experience, we've never seen anything like this."

Vance said the next briefing from state police would be at 8 a.m. ET Saturday.

[Updated at 7:48 p.m. ET] U.S. Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Connecticut, says her thoughts and prayers are with the families.

"This really hits close to home," said DeLauro, who said she is visiting her grandchildren in Washington, D.C. "These beautiful young angels who had so much to live for - and it seems so senseless. Unthinkable that this could happen ,but it has, and now, as the president said, we come together, we wrap our arms around these families and hold them close to our hearts."

[Updated at 7:10 p.m. ET] Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, offered his prayers for the families of those affected by the Connecticut shooting, according to a release from the group.

The shooting "wrenches the hearts of all people," he said.

"Once again we speak against the culture of violence infecting our country even as we prepare to welcome the Prince of Peace at Christmas," Dolan said. "All of us are called to work for peace in our homes, our streets and our world, now more than ever.”

Faisal Ali, right, of Colorado Springs, Colorado, joins other people outside the White House in Washington, D.C., to participate in a vigil to remember the Connecticut school shooting on Friday.

[Updated at 6:51 p.m. ET] A law enforcement official familiar with the investigation says the three guns found at the shooting site were legally purchased by Nancy Lanza, the mother of the suspect in the shooting.

According to the law enforcement official, the Glock and Sig Sauer handguns were found inside the school with the deceased gunman. The Bushmaster was found in a car outside the school. The official did not know if the car was registered to the gunman, to his mother or to someone else.

The official echoed what other law enforcement officials have told CNN: That Adam Lanza was the suspected gunman, and that he died at the scene of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot.

[Updated at 6:44 p.m. ET] Three U.S. law enforcement officials, from different agencies, separately tonight identified the suspected shooter as Adam Lanza, contrary to what investigators had said previously. It is not clear what caused the confusion among investigators.

His older brother, Ryan, was taken into custody for general questioning from a home in Hoboken, New Jersey. Officials did not label Ryan Lanza as a suspect. It is unclear when he may be released.

One of the officials say Adam’s father was also taken in for similar questioning. There is no indication that the father will be charged. The official noted the father has remarried and lives with his new wife in a residence in the general area of Connecticut not too far from where his ex-wife lived.

[Updated at 6:43 p.m. ET] CNN’s Susan Candiotti is talking to investigators at the scene as they piece together exactly what happened and when. She says she’s learned that the mother of the suspected shooter, Nancy Lanza, was found dead in the suspect’s home in Newtown.

“Earlier we had information that she was found in the classroom. However, now I’m being told that in fact her body was found at the suspect's residence," Candiotti said. "We don't know whether she also lived there. We also don't know the timeline - when was she killed? Was she killed before the shooting began at the school? These are the things that authorities are still trying to piece together.”

[Updated at 6:02 p.m. ET] "Evil visited this community today," Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy just told reporters in Newtown. "And it's too early to speak of recovery, but each parent, each sibling, each member of the family has to understand that Connecticut - we're all in this together.

"We'll do whatever we can to overcome this event. We will get through it. But this is a terrible time for this community and these families."

[Updated at 5:14 p.m. ET] The mother of the suspected shooter was found dead in her son's residence in Newtown, a law enforcement source with detailed knowledge of the investigation told CNN. CNN had previously identified the mother as Nancy Lanza, a teacher at the Sandy Hook Elementary, according to law enforcement sources.

The source also told CNN there was no body found in the house searched by authorities in Hoboken, New Jersey. Two law enforcement sources say a man was taken away from questioning from that house. He is believed to be the brother of the shooter, according to the sources.

The first law enforcement source says the school shooter was dressed in "black battle fatigues and a military vest."

The Bushmaster .223 found at the scene is a semi automatic weapon, the source says. Two other weapons found were handguns, a Sig-Sauer and a Glock.

[Updated at 5:10 p.m. ET] We just learned that Governor Dannel P. Malloy will be speaking at Treadwell Park in Newtown, Connecticut, at 6:00 p.m. ET.

[Updated at 5:04  p.m. ET] We've just received a statement from U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan about the shooting:

"School shootings are always incomprehensible and horrific tragedies. But words fail to describe today's heartbreaking and savage attack at Sandy Hook Elementary School. As the father of two children in elementary school, I can barely imagine the anguish and losses suffered today by the Newtown community.

"Our hearts and prayers go out to every parent, child, teacher, staff member, and administrator at Sandy Hook and the surrounding community. And our thanks go out to every teacher, staff member, and first responder who cared for, comforted, and protected children from harm, often at risk to themselves. We will do everything in our power to assist and support the healing and recovery of Newtown."

[Updated at 5:01  p.m. ET] Law enforcement officials are not prepared to identify the shooter right now, Connecticut State PoliceLt. J. Paul Vance said in a press conference.

Vance said that they are working diligently at the crime scene as well as with the medical examiner to identify the victims.

"We will leave no stone unturned," Vance added about the entire investigation.

[Updated at 4:54 p.m. ET] We are now being told there was no body found in the Hoboken, New Jersey, home as had been previously reported.

[Updated at 4:23 p.m. ET] We have learned that Connecticut police have searched the suspected gunman's home and place of employment in the wake of Friday's mass shooting, Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

They have also interviewed his friends, relatives and "everyone who possibly had any connection with him whatsoever," he said.

[Updated at 4:11 p.m. ET] Police did not discharge their weapons at any time when responding at the school, police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. However, he could not confirm whether the suspected shooter - who died at the scene - killed himself, saying that would have to be determined by the medical examiner.

[Updated at 4:07 p.m. ET] Mark Kelly, who's lived through this kind of horror, has issued a statement. He's the husband of former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords who was shot in the head at a massacre in Tucson, Arizona, in January 2011. Here's what he said:

I just woke up in my hotel room in Beijing, China, to learn that another mass shooting has taken place - this time at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims and the entire community of Newtown, CT. I just spoke to Gabby, and she sends her prayers from Tucson.

As we mourn, we must sound a call for our leaders to stand up and do what is right. This time our response must consist of more than regret, sorrow, and condolence. The children of Sandy Hook Elementary School and all victims of gun violence deserve leaders who have the courage to participate in a meaningful discussion about our gun laws - and how they can be reformed and better enforced to prevent gun violence and death in America. This can no longer wait.

[Updated at 3:56 p.m. ET] The principal killed was Dawn Hochsprung. We received this photo via

[Updated at 3:54 p.m. ET] Three guns were found at the scene, CNN's Susan Candiotti reports. According to a law enforcement source, the third weapon found on the scene was a .223 Bushmaster. The other weapons, previously reported, are a Glock, and a Sig-Sauer. No word on the models of Glock or Sig-Sauer.

[Updated at 3:51 p.m. ET] A federal law enforcement source tells CNN's John King the information from the scene is that the shooter arrived and headed directly toward and to his mother’s classroom. That and the other information now emerging - another family member killed, police interviews - lead them to believe his mother was the primary target. But they note he also came armed with clear intention of mass killing.

[Updated at 3:45 p.m. ET] There were a total of 27 people dead at the school, Lt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police said.

Six adults, 20 children and the shooter were killed. Eighteen students were pronounced dead at the scene, and two others died at the hospital, said Lt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police. The six adults died at the scene.

[Updated at 3:43 p.m. ET] Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance has just said that the shooting took place in one section of the school and in two rooms.

[Updated at 3:33 p.m. ET] Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy called the mass shooting "a tragedy of unspeakable terms."

"Earlier today a tragedy of unspeakable terms played itself out in this community," Malloy said, adding that "you can never be prepared for this kind of incident.

"A number of our citizens, beautiful children, had their life taken away from them as well as adults whose responsibility it was to educate and supervise those children," Malloy said.

[Updated at 3:22 p.m. ET] It appears that another member of the alleged shooter's family is dead. A senior law enforcement official familiar with the investigation says a brother of the alleged shooter was found dead in a home searched in Hoboken, New Jersey. We already knew the suspect's mother was found dead in the elementary school.

(6:43 p.m. ET update - CNN’s Susan Candiotti is talking to investigators and has now learned that the mother of the suspected shooter was found dead in the suspect’s home in Newtown. No brother of the suspect has been found dead, and no one has been found dead in the home in Hoboken, New Jersey, investigators say.)

[Updated at 3:16 p.m. ET] From the president: "I offered Gov. Malloy my condolences on behalf of the nation."

The president appears to be emotional, he's wiping his eye.

Here's more of what he's saying:

"We've endured too many of these tragedies in the past few years. Each time I learn the news I react not as a president but as anybody else would as a parent.

"That was especially true today.

"I know there's not a parent in America that doesn't feel the same overwhelming grief that I do.

"The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old.

"They had their entire lives ahead of them, birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own.

Obama sighed.

"Among the fallen were also teachers - men and women who devoted their lives to helping our children fulfill their dreams. Our hearts are broken today for the parents and grandparents, sisters and brothers of these children and the families of the adults we lost.

"Our hearts are broken for the parents of the survivors as well, for as blessed as they are to have their children home tonight, they know that their children’s innocence has been torn away from them too early, and there are no words that will ease their pain.

"As a country, we have been through this too many times. Whether it’s an elementary school in Newtown, or a shopping mall in Oregon, or a temple in Wisconsin, or a movie theater in Aurora, or a street corner in Chicago - these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children. And we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics.

"This evening Michelle and I will do what every parent in America will do - hug our children a little tighter and tell them that we love them.

"There are families in Connecticut that cannot do that tonight and they need all of us tonight.

"May God bless the memory of the victims and in the words of scripture heal the brokenhearted and bind up their wounds."

[Updated at 3:14 p.m. ET] The president will talk soon. You can watch him on our live stream here.

[Updated at 3:12 p.m. ET] President Obama has ordered flags to be lowered to half-staff as a mark of respect for the victims “of the senseless acts of violence perpetrated on December 14, 2012, in Newtown, Connecticut,” according to a release from the White House.

[Updated at 3:09 p.m. ET] The suspect's mother was shot and killed at the school, according to source close to the investigation. She was a teacher there.

And we now know that Ryan Lanza, the suspected gunman, was 24.

(6:44 p.m. ET update - (Three U.S. law enforcement officials say the suspected gunman was Adam Lanza, not his brother Ryan Lanza as officials had previously said. It is not clear what caused the confusion among investigators. Ryan Lanza was picked up from a home in Hoboken, New Jersey, on Friday and has been questioned but has not been labeled as a suspect, officials now say. Also, CNN’s Susan Candiotti is talking to investigators and has now learned that the mother of the suspected shooter was found dead in the suspect’s home in Newtown)

[Updated at 3:01 p.m. ET] The principal and guidance counselor at Sandy Hook Elementary School were both killed during the shooting, according to a witness that spoke to CNN.

[Updated at 2:52 p.m. ET] We have just learned via a tweet from House Speaker John Boehner that flags at the U.S. Capitol will be lowered.


[Updated at 2:47 p.m. ET] President Obama will make a statement on the tragedy at 3:15 p.m. ET. We'll have that live on CNN TV and right here.

[Updated at 2:45 p.m. ET] Various locations are being used as staging areas around Newtown. This is outside the Newtown Methodist Church near the school where a woman is hugging a child.

[Updated at 2:39 p.m. ET] Federal law enforcement officials have told CNN's John King that the shooting happened quickly and happened in a concentrated area.

[Updated at 2:32 p.m. ET] Connecticut Gov. Malloy will be in Newtown and talk about the tragedy today at 3:30 p.m. ET.

[Updated at 2:20 p.m. ET] We are now hearing from CNN's Mary Snow, who is reporting from outside the suspect's home, that dozens of law enforcement officials are on the scene.

Neighbors are "shaken," Snow said.

[Updated at 2:11 p.m. ET] CNN's Susan Candiotti has just reported that a law enforcement official tells her the suspect is named Ryan Lanza and he is in his 20s.

[Updated at 2:09 p.m. ET] We're hearing even more devastating news out of Newtown, Connecticut. CNN's Susan Candiotti has been told that 18 to 20 of the dead are children.

[Updated at 2:07 p.m. ET] CNN's Jessica Yellin is reporting that we're likely to hear from President Obama today on the school shooting, according to a senior administration official. We don't know when our where we may hear from President Obama.

[Updated at 2:04 p.m. ET] Lisa Procaccini, the parent of an 8-year-old at the school, tells CNN that her daughter said school officials kept her calm during the shooting and told her the loud noise was hammering going on.

Eventually police came in and let her daughter and her teacher leave the school building.

"I'm even kind of numb about what's going on," she told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "I'm in a state of shock. I don't know how Im going to handle having [my daughter] know ... about the whole situation."

[Updated at 1:57 p.m. ET]  The death toll is closer to 30 than 20, a federal law enforcement source in Washington told CNN's John King.  Most of those killed are children, the source said.

The source also said the suspected gunman, who is dead, had a connection to the school. He would not elaborate on that connection. The source is in touch with authorities on the scene.

[Updated at 1:53 p.m. ET] Congresswoman-elect Elizabeth Esty, who was recently won a seat representing a district that includes Newtown, Connecticut, just released the following statement on the tragedy:

As a mother, I can only begin to imagine what the students, parents, teachers and staff of Sandy Hook Elementary must be experiencing. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone impacted by this horrific tragedy. While details are still emerging, I hope for the safety and well being of the children, teachers and staff at Sandy Hook Elementary and for the Newtown community.

[Updated at 1:51 p.m. ET] We have just learned that the suspected shooter is 20-years-old, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation tells CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

[Updated at 1:47 p.m. ET] A few more details from the White House press briefing earlier. White House spokesman Jay Carney said while today is not the day to debate gun policy, an assault weapons ban "does remain a commitment" of President Obama.

[Updated at 1:45 p.m. ET]  We are now learning that a male is being questioned by investigators, but he is not being called a suspect, CNN's Susan Candiotti reports.

[Updated at 1:42 p.m. ET] Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance said the shooter is dead inside the school.


Vance said there are a number of fatalities that includes both children and adults. He did not add more details about how many people were killed during the school shooting.

[Updated at 1:41 p.m. ET] Police have now begun their briefing on the shooting.

[Updated at 1:32 p.m. ET] We're hearing more from the scene of the massacre through tweets and interviews.



[Updated at 1:23 p.m. ET] President Obama has spoken to FBI Director Robert Mueller and Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy to get the latest information and express his condolences, White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

[Updated at 1:21 p.m. ET] We're now hearing that it may be a while for the briefing from the police.

[Updated at 1:17 p.m. ET] This was the scene from the air earlier, taken by News 12 Connecticut, with emergency vehicles in the school parking lot.

[Updated at 1:09 p.m. ET] The police are set to give a news conference soon where we'll learn more. We'll bring that to you as soon as it starts.

[Updated at 1:07 p.m. ET] Here's the chilling account told to CNN's Meredith Artley of what happened at the school.

[Updated at 12:59 p.m. ET] Many people are talking again about gun control. But White House spokesman Jay Carney isn't joining in for now.

"I think it's important on a day like today to view this as I know the president, as a father does and I as a father and others who are parents certainly do, which is to feel enormous sympathy for families that are affected and to do everything we can to support state and local law enforcement and support those who are enduring what appears to be a very tragic event.  There is, I'm sure, will be, rather, a day for discussion of the usual Washington policy debates but I don't think today is that day.

[Updated at 12:57 p.m. ET] From the News Times reporter at the school:


[Updated at 12:48 p.m. ET] "Close to 20” people have been killed, including at least 10 children, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation says.

[Updated at 12:47 p.m. ET] President Barack Obama has been informed of the school shooting in Connecticut and will receive regular updates throughout the day, the White House said on Friday.

[Updated at 12:27 p.m. ET] The mom who spoke to CNN's Meredith Artley said she heard "at least 100 rounds" being fired.

The shooting began about 9:35 a.m., the parent said. There was a "pop pop pop" in the hall outside the room. Three people went out of the room into the hall where the sounds had come from. "Only one person came back," we were told.

The witness told Artley that she then called 911. She said she never saw the shooter but she later was escorted outside the room past two bodies lying in blood.

[Updated at 12:20 p.m. ET] A third-grader describes the shooting to WTNH:

[Updated at 12:16 p.m. ET] Two adults were killed, according to a parent who was at the school during the incident, and who talked to our colleague Meredith Artley.

[Updated at 12:12 p.m. ET] We just got this from U.S. Senator-elect Chris Murphy:

"I am shocked and saddened by the horrific news from Sandy Hook Elementary School this morning, and I pray that kids, teachers, staff, and families reach safety as quickly as possible. While we don't have much information right now, our thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones."

[Updated at 12:05 p.m. ET] The shooter's body is in a classroom, a source with knowledge of the investigation tells CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

[Updated at 12:02 p.m. ET] Multiple local media are reporting there are fatalities. We're checking.

[Updated at noon ET] News Times reporter Libor Jany reports that all Newtown schools are on lockdown.


[Updated at 11:58 a.m. ET] Danbury Hospital confirms it's treating some victims. It says this on its Facebook page:

To date, three patients have been transported to Danbury Hospital from the scene. Out of abundance of caution and not because of any direct threat Danbury Hospital is under lockdown. This allows us simply to focus on the important work at hand.

[Updated at 11:54 a.m. ET] Connecticut House Rep. John Frey has nieces and a nephew at the school and is tweeting updates.


[Updated at 11:47 a.m. ET] The dad of a student at the school told CNN affiliate WTNH there were about 600 pupils in the building at the time of the shooting.

[Updated at 11:45 a.m. ET] At least three people were wounded and are in "very serious" condition at a hospital in Danbury, Connecticut, that town's mayor, Mark Boughton told CNN. He couldn't say whether the victims were children.

[Updated at 11:44 a.m. ET] Andrew Doba, Director of Communications with Connecticut Governor Malloy's office, says they are  coordinating with local authorities and state police. They continue to monitor developments in Newtown. The governor is in Connecticut today.

[Updated at 11:40 a.m. ET] We're getting live pictures from the scene from CNN affiliates.

[Updated at 11:34 a.m. ET] The shooter is dead, a source with knowledge of the investigation, tells CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

Police have recovered two weapons from him, the source added.

It's not known whether police killed the alleged shooter or he took his own life. The source says one weapon recovered is a Glock and the other is a Sig Sauer.

[Updated at 11:27 a.m. ET] The Hartford Courant, citing police, said an unspecified number of people had been shot. The nature of their injuries was unclear, the newspaper said. But it cited police in saying one person had "numerous gunshot wounds."

[Updated at 11:19 a.m. ET] Affiliate WTNH says children are being taken to a nearby firehouse.


[Updated at 11:10 a.m. ET] Details are still really sketchy, but we now have a photo from the Newtown Bee of children being led from the scene.

[Updated at 11:03 a.m. ET] We're still getting details in of how many people may have been hurt.

Newtown is southwest of Hartford:

[Updated at 10:53 a.m. ET] Sandy Hook school is on lockdown and students are not being evacuated, a Newtown police spokesman tells us.

[Posted at 10:30 a.m. ET] Breaking news coming in - Connecticut State Police are responding to reports of a shooting at a Newtown elementary school in southwestern Connecticut, according to police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance.

We'll bring you more details as soon as we get them.

Our affiliates in the area are saying the school is the Sandy Hook Elementary School.

CT Now says injuries are being reported. 

soundoff (9,611 Responses)
  1. KKK

    I hate 2nd amendment all the guns in us should be taken away from people in America. I pray every day when I drop my kids at school for their safe day at school.

    December 14, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • karen

      Keep praying, Illinois will be allowing concealed carry.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
  2. karen

    Good news for all you anti gunners, Illinois will have to allow concealed carry.

    December 14, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Saboth

    If you feel like life sucks and you are angry and sad and own a gun and feel like traveling somewhere to shoot people and then kill yourself...start with the last step first.

    December 14, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
  4. nomercy101

    merry christmas 🙁

    December 14, 2012 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
  5. More Sad Days

    You guys are embarrassing. Arguing whether a gun would make it easier or not in defense of a right created in a time where almost every family had a rifle that was a tool for the family is such a degree of ignorance as it hurts to keep reading. Don't you people realize that stricter gun laws doesn't mean banning guns? Do you get that? It doesn't mean stripping you of your 3,4 or 8 guns it means the government makes it more difficult for someone to buy them. Why is that such a 'liberal' conspiracy?
    We've got dead children. Just talk about it. Don't bring up knives and bricks and BS, just talk about the IDEA of reducing the availability of weapons that allow one person to do something like this.

    December 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alex

      Restricting guns is an infringement which is what the 2nd amendment eliminates.

      Furthermore, the second amendment wasnt created so families could have "tools." It was written to give citizens the sovereign power to retake their government if it becomes corrupt and tyrannical.

      read a book.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
  6. todd

    you probably shoudln't be interviewing these kids right now....

    December 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
  7. saywhat

    The face of terrorism we like to white wash with other labels.
    My thoughts & prayers are with the families of the victims.

    December 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Ticked off

    In the old days when everyone carried guns this kind of crap didnt happen. there are probably 10 guns in this country for every man woman and child. outlawing guns will mean none of those guns will be in peoples hands to protect their selves but the criminals will have them all. they are never going to go away. If a man cannot protect his self and his family he is not much of a man. Kill a few of these criminals in the act and dont publisize their names and it will all go away.

    December 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • BBDS

      Yeah lets have a good old fashion shoot out in a elementary school

      December 14, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mandy

      agreed...Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jack Sparrows

      The people who are killing are not criminals, but some crazy ones from the general crowd. No guns for all is the only solution.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      You people are out of your mind. We have the highest homicide rate of any developed country, yet you still believe more of the same, (more guns) is the answers.

      What the hell is wrong with you imbeciles...

      December 14, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • blah11

      Which grade did you drop out of?

      December 14, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Worf

      You mean like how the Soviets handled those that disagreed?

      December 14, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      @ Mandy – Is this what you call freedom you twit...

      All you dimwits have are cliches and you grasp on them as if God himself said these words.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • carl

      Almost nobody proposes to get rid of all guns. What sensible people want is reasonable laws to make it more difficult for criminals and the insane to get their hands on them. However, the NRA opposes all gun laws based on "slippery slope" arguments. So yes, I blame the NRA and their supporters for this.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • PeninsulaState

      What's the pro-gun excuse for this? I bet if those kids were carrying weapons, none of this would've happened?...This is absolutely absurd...I've lost faith in humanity.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scurvy

      Yeah, lets all have children pack heat. The over-availability of guns in this country is an embarrassment and a deadly menace.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dale Wilson

      Really? You think the solution is to arm school aged children? Sure, lets give them all a 45 automatic. Problem solved in your mind?

      December 14, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Geo

      There's a solution! Let's arm EVERYONE so there won't be any more shootings! Man, why didn't someone think of that before?

      December 14, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Patrick

      So what you're ticked off about is your general ignorance?

      December 14, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • CHarles

      Seriously?? You are a nut.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Robert

      Yeah, we need MORE Guns! Moron!

      December 14, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • tripleredshell

      oh yes... there have always been so many guns in elementary schools. This is why I can't take gun owners' arguments seriously.

      Aside from politics... there are really no words for this situation. I don't know how the families of these victims begin to recover from this kind of devistation, but I do hope they find the strength to.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alex

      BBDS – We DID have a shootout today. Only problem was, the bullets were only coming from one direction. Usually when bullets are also going towards the criminal, they have to get to a defensive position (aka, they cant shoot kids anymore and become more focused on the person defending the kids).

      This should be an example of what happens when law abiding citizens are unarmed/disarmed. The criminals will still be armed and the police are too far away to help. Teachers should be armed and able to defend children.

      Unless of course, you are anti-self defense?

      December 14, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Devastated 1978

    Americans have the "right" to bare arms... too bad you guys don't have the ABILITY!!!! I am never visiting the states. This is so devastating. Rest in peace to all of those little angels. Praying for their families.

    December 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alex

      in a sick, dark way, a lone gunman killed 26...apparently he did have some ability

      December 14, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      I've written the president twice about doing something about the weapons laws in this country. There's too many gun lovers in the United States

      December 14, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alex

      Matt- Im sure the President will respond to your two letters.

      Why are you anti self defense?

      December 14, 2012 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Rev JG

    God our Father,
    Your power brings us to birth,
    Your providence guides our lives,
    and by Your command we return to dust.

    Lord, those who die still live in Your presence,
    their lives change but do not end.
    I pray in hope for the families,
    relatives and friends,
    and for all the dead known to You alone.

    In company with Christ,
    Who died and now lives,
    may they rejoice in Your kingdom,
    where all our tears are wiped away.
    Unite us together again in one family,
    to sing Your praise forever and ever.


    December 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • joe

      thanks god for the help, better late than never

      December 14, 2012 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • chuck


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    • huckafooter

      Why not leave God out of this. Why didnt god protect those innocent children. Gun control is about 50 years too late. If I had a child die and someone said "god please be with this child" I would punch them in the face. You ignorant F*c&ing christians.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  11. BBDS

    I am sick and tired of the "its not the guns its the people argument". A lot easier to subdue somebody with a knife than a gun. Assault weapons and pistols are designed only for the purpose of killing other people. Following the NRA logic, I guess we need to start arming our teachers in schools. Then when this happens next time then we can have a good old fashion shootout in a school. Or, maybe we should start arming our children.

    December 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Frank

      So if somoene stabs someone are we going to outlaw the knife??

      December 14, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • dnice76

      Except... It is the people

      December 14, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jack Sparrows

      @Frank – Knives would kill (I hope not) far fewer people than guns and the attacker could be subdued comparatively easily than that having a gun.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cheryl Brown

      AGREED! Even tranquilizing weapons would be better than guns.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Michelle

      People who blame the weapon, are part of the problem and not the solution. People owned guns 30 yrs ago and this kind of thing was never heard of.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • BBDS

      Okay, following this line of reasoning then citizens should also have the rights defend themselves with tanks, missiles, etc.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • SB

      Banning handguns will help tremendously. It's worked so well for meth, heroine and pot.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • CFM

      Not the time for this conversation you jerk

      December 14, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • DUR

      "Easier to subdue someone with a knife?" How ignorant are you? Have you ever tried taking down a combatant armed with a knife? From my military combat experience, I'd happily tackle a guy with a rifle then a blade. If you're tired of the 'guns don't kill people' argument, too bad. The people choose to use the gun in this manner. The gun is but a tool for their cruel, evil deed. take away the guns, they'll just use something else. Like KNIVES. Or homemade explosives. Or an iron bar. Oh no! Lets ban EVERYTHING dangerous since it all has a potential to be a weapon!

      December 14, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • dnice76

      We need to address mental illness and mental health in this country. Too many people on anti-depressants out there. There's something fundamentally wrong with that.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      In close combat, a knife is significantly more dangerous than a gun. The deciding factor in stopping an attacker is the willingness to use violence in response, not the weapon used by the attacker. The attacker usually has the advantage of willingness to use violence, which is also why no matter how many laws and bans are instated it will never solve the problem of violent criminals who by definition do not follow laws.

      Instead, laws that infringe on the rights of the law abiding based on the actions of criminals are morally and ethically wrong. The standard for good laws should never be the infringement of the rights of the law abiding in response to the actions of the criminal. This is a violation of not only our right to keep and bare arms, but our rights to due process and against false imprisonment and cruel and unusual punishment.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Alex

      Why are you anti self defense?

      Banning guns doesnt remove guns from criminals. It removes guns from people that will follow the law (law abiding citizen). Give this, why do you not want people to defend themselves from criminals with guns?

      Furthermore, Ted Bundy killed over 30 with his bare hands and knives. Ban hands and knives?

      December 14, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Sam

    Why is this happening? Is it violent video games, songs, internet bullying? What is happening in today's age that wasn't happening in the 60's when these kinds of things were much LESS common? get rid of all of it...I don't care. Take us back to the stoneage if it will keep children from being murdered in school.

    December 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • na

      This kind of thing did happen in the 60s, just not always on school grounds. There's was still bullying and gang violence. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to themselves and you. If you want to blame anything, blame the lack of counseling and mental health support in this country and the negative stigma that it carries. With a better safety net and better education, people like this can be better identified ahead of time and rehabilitated.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • J

      Please don't blame video games....its the person, thats it. You have to be beyond messed up to pull something like this.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sam

      I know it happened in the 60s but it was not this common or this often. It was not. Also....I know it's not as simple as video games = school shootings. But many of these things have the potential to romanticize violence and after awhile with influence someone who is mentally unstable could really let loose. My point is....that internet, video games with violence and songs with violence can really add up.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Webman

    Its time to think very seriously about protecting the schools with fences and guards at the gates. As it is today, most schools allow access into school grounds with no question asked. It completely make sense to check who comes in, look in there eyes and inside their cars. Guards (should be volunteered parents) will add another layer of safety and deterrent to these who plan to enter schools for mass killing.

    December 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Sacmar

    Wow. What is wrong with these people?!?! To kill innocent kids is just disgusting. If he wanted to die, why not just kill yourself and be done with it?!

    December 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
  15. jr

    There is a million+ kids killed a year with abortion.

    December 14, 2012 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • McG

      You are an idiot

      December 14, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mike

      You are an idiot

      December 14, 2012 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mando056

      So Jr 10 shoot with a gun is OK?

      December 14, 2012 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • FactCheck

      Too bad your mother was not one of them. Could have saved society from the likes of you.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Indysgirl

      Jr, you are about stupid!!

      December 14, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • kimber13

      what does that comment have to do with this situation? Seriously?

      December 14, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Old Ragusa

      in the history of safe, medically supervised abortions, not one "kid" has ever been killed, and certainly not millions. and not one fetus has ever been shot while sitting at its school desk. just another sad, uncaring statement from a confused individual missing the point of the story. where is the Christian love?

      December 14, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      I've never heard of 'mass murder' by brick...the same lame argument time and time again.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Drew

      So you would say to these kids and families "Hey, it could be worse, they could have been killed when they were clumps of cells."? I doubt it. Abortion has nothing to do with the issue of stricter gun control.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
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