December 14th, 2012
11:18 PM ET

Children and adults gunned down in Connecticut school massacre

  • 20 children, six adults and the shooter are dead after shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, on Friday morning
  • Three law enforcement officials say Adam Lanza, 20, was the shooter, and that he died apparently by his own hand
  • Suspect's mother, Nancy Lanza, found dead in suspect’s home in Newtown, law enforcement source says
  • Ryan Lanza, 24, older brother of Adam Lanza, questioned by police but not labeled a suspect, three law enforcement officials say
  • Below are the latest updates as they come to us. You also can read our story of the Connecticut school shooting

[Updated at 11:18 p.m. ET] Aimee Seaver, the mother of a first-grade girl at Sandy Hook and a fifth-grader who attends a different school, told CNN's Anderson Cooper that her children are having trouble dealing with what happened.

"It's a very rough night here," she said. "When your first-grader goes to bed and says, 'Mommy, is anyone from my class last year - are they all OK?' and you look at them and say, 'I'm not really sure,' it's a rough night to tell that to your 7-year-old."

Her younger daughter has asked a lot of questions about Principal Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung, who was killed.

“She got wind very quickly that something was wrong with our principal, which we didn’t tell her till just now that yes, she was definitely hurt and it wasn’t good," Seaver said. "It’s taking her a while. I think tomorrow will probably be harder for her.

“I also have a fifth-grader who came off the bus crying because she … had a sister who she was worried about, and … just basically left that school a few months ago. I think for a lot of those kids, they kind of are a little older and can get it a little bit faster, even though they weren’t in it.

“So the questions, I think, are coming. They’re not here, yet, especially for the littler ones. It started as I put them to bed tonight, the questions.”

[Updated at 10:50 p.m. ET] Janet Vollmer, a kindergarten teacher at the school, says she locked her classroom doors and - to keep her students calm - read them a story until the police came.

Vollmer, her 19 students and the adult helpers in her classroom were not injured.

"You could hear what sounded like pops, gunshots. Of course, I’m not going to tell that to 5-year-olds, so I said to them, ‘We’re going over in a safe area,'" Vollmer told CNN's Anderson Cooper. "And we read a story and we kept them calm, did a lockdown drill, closed the doors, locked (them), covered the windows, and kept the children with us.”

She said the children knew something unusual was going on.

“It didn’t seem a natural thing (to the children), although we do practice drills," Vollmer said. "We said, ‘We’re not really sure, but we’re going to be safe, because we’re sitting over here and we’re all together.’”

When asked how she kept cool, she said: “With 5-year-olds, you can’t lose it. I’ve been doing this for a long time, it’s my 18th year of teaching. My job was to keep them safe."

"After we got down to the firehouse, later on, as a lot of the events started to unfold throughout the day  I think some of (the children) realized the magnitude of what was going on.," she said. "They saw other people upset. We just held them close until their parents came and we released them.”

[Updated at 8:58 p.m. ET] Denise Correia says her daughter, a Sandy Hook Elementary second-grader who was not injured, heard the gunshots from the classroom she was in. The girl, while talking about the shooting with Correia, has been mentioning slain principal Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung "quite a lot."

"I think everyone's coping as best as they possibly can," Correia told CNN's Anderson Cooper. "I'm letting her talk. She's mentioned quite a bit about the principal, who many of us have worked with. I adored her. I worked with her personally with my business. That is one person I know we have lost on a personal level."

Correia said she has heard that her daughter's teacher, when the gunfire started, grabbed two kids from the hallway, put them into her classroom with other students, locked the door and gathered the students to a side of the room away from the gunfire. "She did a very heroic thing," Correia said of the teacher.

"The kids are going to suffer from this," Correia said. "... We lost a lot of babies today in this town, and there are a lot of very sad families."

[Updated at 8:20 p.m. ET] One injured victim, a female employee of the school, is "doing well," Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance said.

[Updated at 7:53 p.m. ET] The public release of the victims' names may come on Saturday morning, Connecticut State Police Lt. J. Paul Vance says.

Vance said investigators have made preliminary identifications of the bodies, and that they've notified the appropriate families. But investigators want to make final, positive identifications before releasing the names to the media.

"It's a horrific scene," Vance said. "Between our mutual experience, we've never seen anything like this."

Vance said the next briefing from state police would be at 8 a.m. ET Saturday.

[Updated at 7:48 p.m. ET] U.S. Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Connecticut, says her thoughts and prayers are with the families.

"This really hits close to home," said DeLauro, who said she is visiting her grandchildren in Washington, D.C. "These beautiful young angels who had so much to live for - and it seems so senseless. Unthinkable that this could happen ,but it has, and now, as the president said, we come together, we wrap our arms around these families and hold them close to our hearts."

[Updated at 7:10 p.m. ET] Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, offered his prayers for the families of those affected by the Connecticut shooting, according to a release from the group.

The shooting "wrenches the hearts of all people," he said.

"Once again we speak against the culture of violence infecting our country even as we prepare to welcome the Prince of Peace at Christmas," Dolan said. "All of us are called to work for peace in our homes, our streets and our world, now more than ever.”

Faisal Ali, right, of Colorado Springs, Colorado, joins other people outside the White House in Washington, D.C., to participate in a vigil to remember the Connecticut school shooting on Friday.

[Updated at 6:51 p.m. ET] A law enforcement official familiar with the investigation says the three guns found at the shooting site were legally purchased by Nancy Lanza, the mother of the suspect in the shooting.

According to the law enforcement official, the Glock and Sig Sauer handguns were found inside the school with the deceased gunman. The Bushmaster was found in a car outside the school. The official did not know if the car was registered to the gunman, to his mother or to someone else.

The official echoed what other law enforcement officials have told CNN: That Adam Lanza was the suspected gunman, and that he died at the scene of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot.

[Updated at 6:44 p.m. ET] Three U.S. law enforcement officials, from different agencies, separately tonight identified the suspected shooter as Adam Lanza, contrary to what investigators had said previously. It is not clear what caused the confusion among investigators.

His older brother, Ryan, was taken into custody for general questioning from a home in Hoboken, New Jersey. Officials did not label Ryan Lanza as a suspect. It is unclear when he may be released.

One of the officials say Adam’s father was also taken in for similar questioning. There is no indication that the father will be charged. The official noted the father has remarried and lives with his new wife in a residence in the general area of Connecticut not too far from where his ex-wife lived.

[Updated at 6:43 p.m. ET] CNN’s Susan Candiotti is talking to investigators at the scene as they piece together exactly what happened and when. She says she’s learned that the mother of the suspected shooter, Nancy Lanza, was found dead in the suspect’s home in Newtown.

“Earlier we had information that she was found in the classroom. However, now I’m being told that in fact her body was found at the suspect's residence," Candiotti said. "We don't know whether she also lived there. We also don't know the timeline - when was she killed? Was she killed before the shooting began at the school? These are the things that authorities are still trying to piece together.”

[Updated at 6:02 p.m. ET] "Evil visited this community today," Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy just told reporters in Newtown. "And it's too early to speak of recovery, but each parent, each sibling, each member of the family has to understand that Connecticut - we're all in this together.

"We'll do whatever we can to overcome this event. We will get through it. But this is a terrible time for this community and these families."

[Updated at 5:14 p.m. ET] The mother of the suspected shooter was found dead in her son's residence in Newtown, a law enforcement source with detailed knowledge of the investigation told CNN. CNN had previously identified the mother as Nancy Lanza, a teacher at the Sandy Hook Elementary, according to law enforcement sources.

The source also told CNN there was no body found in the house searched by authorities in Hoboken, New Jersey. Two law enforcement sources say a man was taken away from questioning from that house. He is believed to be the brother of the shooter, according to the sources.

The first law enforcement source says the school shooter was dressed in "black battle fatigues and a military vest."

The Bushmaster .223 found at the scene is a semi automatic weapon, the source says. Two other weapons found were handguns, a Sig-Sauer and a Glock.

[Updated at 5:10 p.m. ET] We just learned that Governor Dannel P. Malloy will be speaking at Treadwell Park in Newtown, Connecticut, at 6:00 p.m. ET.

[Updated at 5:04  p.m. ET] We've just received a statement from U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan about the shooting:

"School shootings are always incomprehensible and horrific tragedies. But words fail to describe today's heartbreaking and savage attack at Sandy Hook Elementary School. As the father of two children in elementary school, I can barely imagine the anguish and losses suffered today by the Newtown community.

"Our hearts and prayers go out to every parent, child, teacher, staff member, and administrator at Sandy Hook and the surrounding community. And our thanks go out to every teacher, staff member, and first responder who cared for, comforted, and protected children from harm, often at risk to themselves. We will do everything in our power to assist and support the healing and recovery of Newtown."

[Updated at 5:01  p.m. ET] Law enforcement officials are not prepared to identify the shooter right now, Connecticut State PoliceLt. J. Paul Vance said in a press conference.

Vance said that they are working diligently at the crime scene as well as with the medical examiner to identify the victims.

"We will leave no stone unturned," Vance added about the entire investigation.

[Updated at 4:54 p.m. ET] We are now being told there was no body found in the Hoboken, New Jersey, home as had been previously reported.

[Updated at 4:23 p.m. ET] We have learned that Connecticut police have searched the suspected gunman's home and place of employment in the wake of Friday's mass shooting, Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

They have also interviewed his friends, relatives and "everyone who possibly had any connection with him whatsoever," he said.

[Updated at 4:11 p.m. ET] Police did not discharge their weapons at any time when responding at the school, police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. However, he could not confirm whether the suspected shooter - who died at the scene - killed himself, saying that would have to be determined by the medical examiner.

[Updated at 4:07 p.m. ET] Mark Kelly, who's lived through this kind of horror, has issued a statement. He's the husband of former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords who was shot in the head at a massacre in Tucson, Arizona, in January 2011. Here's what he said:

I just woke up in my hotel room in Beijing, China, to learn that another mass shooting has taken place - this time at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. My thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims and the entire community of Newtown, CT. I just spoke to Gabby, and she sends her prayers from Tucson.

As we mourn, we must sound a call for our leaders to stand up and do what is right. This time our response must consist of more than regret, sorrow, and condolence. The children of Sandy Hook Elementary School and all victims of gun violence deserve leaders who have the courage to participate in a meaningful discussion about our gun laws - and how they can be reformed and better enforced to prevent gun violence and death in America. This can no longer wait.

[Updated at 3:56 p.m. ET] The principal killed was Dawn Hochsprung. We received this photo via

[Updated at 3:54 p.m. ET] Three guns were found at the scene, CNN's Susan Candiotti reports. According to a law enforcement source, the third weapon found on the scene was a .223 Bushmaster. The other weapons, previously reported, are a Glock, and a Sig-Sauer. No word on the models of Glock or Sig-Sauer.

[Updated at 3:51 p.m. ET] A federal law enforcement source tells CNN's John King the information from the scene is that the shooter arrived and headed directly toward and to his mother’s classroom. That and the other information now emerging - another family member killed, police interviews - lead them to believe his mother was the primary target. But they note he also came armed with clear intention of mass killing.

[Updated at 3:45 p.m. ET] There were a total of 27 people dead at the school, Lt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police said.

Six adults, 20 children and the shooter were killed. Eighteen students were pronounced dead at the scene, and two others died at the hospital, said Lt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police. The six adults died at the scene.

[Updated at 3:43 p.m. ET] Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance has just said that the shooting took place in one section of the school and in two rooms.

[Updated at 3:33 p.m. ET] Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy called the mass shooting "a tragedy of unspeakable terms."

"Earlier today a tragedy of unspeakable terms played itself out in this community," Malloy said, adding that "you can never be prepared for this kind of incident.

"A number of our citizens, beautiful children, had their life taken away from them as well as adults whose responsibility it was to educate and supervise those children," Malloy said.

[Updated at 3:22 p.m. ET] It appears that another member of the alleged shooter's family is dead. A senior law enforcement official familiar with the investigation says a brother of the alleged shooter was found dead in a home searched in Hoboken, New Jersey. We already knew the suspect's mother was found dead in the elementary school.

(6:43 p.m. ET update - CNN’s Susan Candiotti is talking to investigators and has now learned that the mother of the suspected shooter was found dead in the suspect’s home in Newtown. No brother of the suspect has been found dead, and no one has been found dead in the home in Hoboken, New Jersey, investigators say.)

[Updated at 3:16 p.m. ET] From the president: "I offered Gov. Malloy my condolences on behalf of the nation."

The president appears to be emotional, he's wiping his eye.

Here's more of what he's saying:

"We've endured too many of these tragedies in the past few years. Each time I learn the news I react not as a president but as anybody else would as a parent.

"That was especially true today.

"I know there's not a parent in America that doesn't feel the same overwhelming grief that I do.

"The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old.

"They had their entire lives ahead of them, birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own.

Obama sighed.

"Among the fallen were also teachers - men and women who devoted their lives to helping our children fulfill their dreams. Our hearts are broken today for the parents and grandparents, sisters and brothers of these children and the families of the adults we lost.

"Our hearts are broken for the parents of the survivors as well, for as blessed as they are to have their children home tonight, they know that their children’s innocence has been torn away from them too early, and there are no words that will ease their pain.

"As a country, we have been through this too many times. Whether it’s an elementary school in Newtown, or a shopping mall in Oregon, or a temple in Wisconsin, or a movie theater in Aurora, or a street corner in Chicago - these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods, and these children are our children. And we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics.

"This evening Michelle and I will do what every parent in America will do - hug our children a little tighter and tell them that we love them.

"There are families in Connecticut that cannot do that tonight and they need all of us tonight.

"May God bless the memory of the victims and in the words of scripture heal the brokenhearted and bind up their wounds."

[Updated at 3:14 p.m. ET] The president will talk soon. You can watch him on our live stream here.

[Updated at 3:12 p.m. ET] President Obama has ordered flags to be lowered to half-staff as a mark of respect for the victims “of the senseless acts of violence perpetrated on December 14, 2012, in Newtown, Connecticut,” according to a release from the White House.

[Updated at 3:09 p.m. ET] The suspect's mother was shot and killed at the school, according to source close to the investigation. She was a teacher there.

And we now know that Ryan Lanza, the suspected gunman, was 24.

(6:44 p.m. ET update - (Three U.S. law enforcement officials say the suspected gunman was Adam Lanza, not his brother Ryan Lanza as officials had previously said. It is not clear what caused the confusion among investigators. Ryan Lanza was picked up from a home in Hoboken, New Jersey, on Friday and has been questioned but has not been labeled as a suspect, officials now say. Also, CNN’s Susan Candiotti is talking to investigators and has now learned that the mother of the suspected shooter was found dead in the suspect’s home in Newtown)

[Updated at 3:01 p.m. ET] The principal and guidance counselor at Sandy Hook Elementary School were both killed during the shooting, according to a witness that spoke to CNN.

[Updated at 2:52 p.m. ET] We have just learned via a tweet from House Speaker John Boehner that flags at the U.S. Capitol will be lowered.


[Updated at 2:47 p.m. ET] President Obama will make a statement on the tragedy at 3:15 p.m. ET. We'll have that live on CNN TV and right here.

[Updated at 2:45 p.m. ET] Various locations are being used as staging areas around Newtown. This is outside the Newtown Methodist Church near the school where a woman is hugging a child.

[Updated at 2:39 p.m. ET] Federal law enforcement officials have told CNN's John King that the shooting happened quickly and happened in a concentrated area.

[Updated at 2:32 p.m. ET] Connecticut Gov. Malloy will be in Newtown and talk about the tragedy today at 3:30 p.m. ET.

[Updated at 2:20 p.m. ET] We are now hearing from CNN's Mary Snow, who is reporting from outside the suspect's home, that dozens of law enforcement officials are on the scene.

Neighbors are "shaken," Snow said.

[Updated at 2:11 p.m. ET] CNN's Susan Candiotti has just reported that a law enforcement official tells her the suspect is named Ryan Lanza and he is in his 20s.

[Updated at 2:09 p.m. ET] We're hearing even more devastating news out of Newtown, Connecticut. CNN's Susan Candiotti has been told that 18 to 20 of the dead are children.

[Updated at 2:07 p.m. ET] CNN's Jessica Yellin is reporting that we're likely to hear from President Obama today on the school shooting, according to a senior administration official. We don't know when our where we may hear from President Obama.

[Updated at 2:04 p.m. ET] Lisa Procaccini, the parent of an 8-year-old at the school, tells CNN that her daughter said school officials kept her calm during the shooting and told her the loud noise was hammering going on.

Eventually police came in and let her daughter and her teacher leave the school building.

"I'm even kind of numb about what's going on," she told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "I'm in a state of shock. I don't know how Im going to handle having [my daughter] know ... about the whole situation."

[Updated at 1:57 p.m. ET]  The death toll is closer to 30 than 20, a federal law enforcement source in Washington told CNN's John King.  Most of those killed are children, the source said.

The source also said the suspected gunman, who is dead, had a connection to the school. He would not elaborate on that connection. The source is in touch with authorities on the scene.

[Updated at 1:53 p.m. ET] Congresswoman-elect Elizabeth Esty, who was recently won a seat representing a district that includes Newtown, Connecticut, just released the following statement on the tragedy:

As a mother, I can only begin to imagine what the students, parents, teachers and staff of Sandy Hook Elementary must be experiencing. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone impacted by this horrific tragedy. While details are still emerging, I hope for the safety and well being of the children, teachers and staff at Sandy Hook Elementary and for the Newtown community.

[Updated at 1:51 p.m. ET] We have just learned that the suspected shooter is 20-years-old, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation tells CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

[Updated at 1:47 p.m. ET] A few more details from the White House press briefing earlier. White House spokesman Jay Carney said while today is not the day to debate gun policy, an assault weapons ban "does remain a commitment" of President Obama.

[Updated at 1:45 p.m. ET]  We are now learning that a male is being questioned by investigators, but he is not being called a suspect, CNN's Susan Candiotti reports.

[Updated at 1:42 p.m. ET] Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance said the shooter is dead inside the school.


Vance said there are a number of fatalities that includes both children and adults. He did not add more details about how many people were killed during the school shooting.

[Updated at 1:41 p.m. ET] Police have now begun their briefing on the shooting.

[Updated at 1:32 p.m. ET] We're hearing more from the scene of the massacre through tweets and interviews.



[Updated at 1:23 p.m. ET] President Obama has spoken to FBI Director Robert Mueller and Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy to get the latest information and express his condolences, White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

[Updated at 1:21 p.m. ET] We're now hearing that it may be a while for the briefing from the police.

[Updated at 1:17 p.m. ET] This was the scene from the air earlier, taken by News 12 Connecticut, with emergency vehicles in the school parking lot.

[Updated at 1:09 p.m. ET] The police are set to give a news conference soon where we'll learn more. We'll bring that to you as soon as it starts.

[Updated at 1:07 p.m. ET] Here's the chilling account told to CNN's Meredith Artley of what happened at the school.

[Updated at 12:59 p.m. ET] Many people are talking again about gun control. But White House spokesman Jay Carney isn't joining in for now.

"I think it's important on a day like today to view this as I know the president, as a father does and I as a father and others who are parents certainly do, which is to feel enormous sympathy for families that are affected and to do everything we can to support state and local law enforcement and support those who are enduring what appears to be a very tragic event.  There is, I'm sure, will be, rather, a day for discussion of the usual Washington policy debates but I don't think today is that day.

[Updated at 12:57 p.m. ET] From the News Times reporter at the school:


[Updated at 12:48 p.m. ET] "Close to 20” people have been killed, including at least 10 children, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation says.

[Updated at 12:47 p.m. ET] President Barack Obama has been informed of the school shooting in Connecticut and will receive regular updates throughout the day, the White House said on Friday.

[Updated at 12:27 p.m. ET] The mom who spoke to CNN's Meredith Artley said she heard "at least 100 rounds" being fired.

The shooting began about 9:35 a.m., the parent said. There was a "pop pop pop" in the hall outside the room. Three people went out of the room into the hall where the sounds had come from. "Only one person came back," we were told.

The witness told Artley that she then called 911. She said she never saw the shooter but she later was escorted outside the room past two bodies lying in blood.

[Updated at 12:20 p.m. ET] A third-grader describes the shooting to WTNH:

[Updated at 12:16 p.m. ET] Two adults were killed, according to a parent who was at the school during the incident, and who talked to our colleague Meredith Artley.

[Updated at 12:12 p.m. ET] We just got this from U.S. Senator-elect Chris Murphy:

"I am shocked and saddened by the horrific news from Sandy Hook Elementary School this morning, and I pray that kids, teachers, staff, and families reach safety as quickly as possible. While we don't have much information right now, our thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones."

[Updated at 12:05 p.m. ET] The shooter's body is in a classroom, a source with knowledge of the investigation tells CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

[Updated at 12:02 p.m. ET] Multiple local media are reporting there are fatalities. We're checking.

[Updated at noon ET] News Times reporter Libor Jany reports that all Newtown schools are on lockdown.


[Updated at 11:58 a.m. ET] Danbury Hospital confirms it's treating some victims. It says this on its Facebook page:

To date, three patients have been transported to Danbury Hospital from the scene. Out of abundance of caution and not because of any direct threat Danbury Hospital is under lockdown. This allows us simply to focus on the important work at hand.

[Updated at 11:54 a.m. ET] Connecticut House Rep. John Frey has nieces and a nephew at the school and is tweeting updates.


[Updated at 11:47 a.m. ET] The dad of a student at the school told CNN affiliate WTNH there were about 600 pupils in the building at the time of the shooting.

[Updated at 11:45 a.m. ET] At least three people were wounded and are in "very serious" condition at a hospital in Danbury, Connecticut, that town's mayor, Mark Boughton told CNN. He couldn't say whether the victims were children.

[Updated at 11:44 a.m. ET] Andrew Doba, Director of Communications with Connecticut Governor Malloy's office, says they are  coordinating with local authorities and state police. They continue to monitor developments in Newtown. The governor is in Connecticut today.

[Updated at 11:40 a.m. ET] We're getting live pictures from the scene from CNN affiliates.

[Updated at 11:34 a.m. ET] The shooter is dead, a source with knowledge of the investigation, tells CNN’s Susan Candiotti.

Police have recovered two weapons from him, the source added.

It's not known whether police killed the alleged shooter or he took his own life. The source says one weapon recovered is a Glock and the other is a Sig Sauer.

[Updated at 11:27 a.m. ET] The Hartford Courant, citing police, said an unspecified number of people had been shot. The nature of their injuries was unclear, the newspaper said. But it cited police in saying one person had "numerous gunshot wounds."

[Updated at 11:19 a.m. ET] Affiliate WTNH says children are being taken to a nearby firehouse.


[Updated at 11:10 a.m. ET] Details are still really sketchy, but we now have a photo from the Newtown Bee of children being led from the scene.

[Updated at 11:03 a.m. ET] We're still getting details in of how many people may have been hurt.

Newtown is southwest of Hartford:

[Updated at 10:53 a.m. ET] Sandy Hook school is on lockdown and students are not being evacuated, a Newtown police spokesman tells us.

[Posted at 10:30 a.m. ET] Breaking news coming in - Connecticut State Police are responding to reports of a shooting at a Newtown elementary school in southwestern Connecticut, according to police spokesman Lt. Paul Vance.

We'll bring you more details as soon as we get them.

Our affiliates in the area are saying the school is the Sandy Hook Elementary School.

CT Now says injuries are being reported. 

soundoff (9,611 Responses)
  1. Marky Merlot

    No, it's NOT the same arguement. We are talking about a small machine, that has the ability to destroy lives, on the basis of one's character, mood swing, mental state, etc. I'm all in favor of guns, for people with extensive professional training, rigorous backround checks and regular proficiency testing. That may not even eliminate the problem, but it might go a long way to reducing it. AND, the NRA has to be a leader in this move.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  2. Anthony

    How about having some compassion for the parents of the children that go to this school........LIKE MY SON!!!! I dont know if he is ok or not.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
    • davidw

      I hope you get good news about your son soon @Anthony?
      How old is he and what grade is he in?
      What have you heard from authorities?

      December 14, 2012 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Connecticut Native!

      Anthony.. some of us are focused on the real issue here. I will pray.. and keep hoping others are praying too..

      December 14, 2012 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
  3. bspurloc

    never mind it takes nuts to attack someone with a knife, bat, hammer where a gun u can cower in a car or farther away

    December 14, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  4. martin

    And 70 million people starved in China between 1958 -1962. What's your point?

    December 14, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
    • ron krish

      only guns are capable of killing so many people with continuous rounds of fire, ban the NRA that meddles with regulating the gun laws and this is the freedom they take in their hands to abuse and indulge in mass murder of innocents, and children. go to church to draw moral boundaries and resort to guns to break loose all one's morals. stupidity going on. it is preventable. gun controls are a must to bring order and ensure peaceful conduct of our daily life.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  5. anon

    foreign media reporting the shooter is already dead. Good to see CNN behind the times... again.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  6. nadinesh

    yeah well a gun shot those kids, you brainless twit. A gun in the hands of cruel person who had no control over his life. I'm pretty sure this is true, more or less, of the majority of gun-lovers. No one loves a gun unless there's no other way they feel they can exert sufficient control. People like you, a puddle of uselessness.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
  7. 1rogerl

    I'm praying for the children and all the innocent people here. If this is a child shooter, I'd bet money he's a "combat video" pro and decided to take it live. I support the Second Amendment, but I DO NOT support the idiotic idea that EVERYONE should be granted a gun permit. I am a Viet Nam vet with a lifetime of gun experience and I'll gaurantee you that you would be glad to have me next to you if this happened in your world..... MIA / POW we will never forget...

    December 14, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • DarrenWesley

      Right... it HAS to be video games because this world we live in isn't extremely violent and kids aren't met with violent images EVERY SINGLE DAY of their lives. It HAS to be those video games we allow them to play.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
  8. Brian Hamilton

    At some point you figure people would realize something is wrong.
    Glad my country doesnt have these pointless shootings.
    But of course America #1.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve Wilson, Canada

      Hi Brian,

      You didn't mention which country you live in. If you live in Canada, we DO have these shootings. Not nearly as often, but we do have them.

      I wish that NO country had ANY shhotings, aceept for moose, deer, ducks, geese and pheasant...

      December 14, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Chet

      Hey, thanks for the soapbox. Very political of you.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Paris

      I agree that America has a problem. The government has made horrible decisions that were made only based on parties rather than a whole group. The outcome is depression and stupid people reacting badly and unfairly. These people should be punished severely. I do believe the American government needs immediate shifting. I know how to do this to benefit people as a whole, but I am not "a labeled person". Therefore, I am not heard.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:34 am | Report abuse |
  9. Fred

    A "responsible gun owner" is a law enforcement officer. That's it. Stop trying to hide behind something that was written over 200 years ago. Shootings like this are happening way too frequently and there's no need for it. Stop being so f'n paranoid about everything and lose the gun.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • ccnyc


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    • Mariob195

      Fred, you are delusional.....

      December 14, 2012 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      No thanks Fed. I'll keep my gun. Just don't come whining to me when the criminals are after you and the police don't have time to make it there. Good luck to you.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Paris

      I agree. Of course, we have to keep keeping the cop's intentions for good doing. A well thinker would consider that a person with a good criminal background could qualify to buy a gun until after they use it to commit a crime. They just needed the right weapon. However, I debate back and forth on how good people can safely carry protection.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • caesarbc

      Normal response time for an officer is 9 minutes. A lot can happen in 9 minutes.
      Who are you – Al Q?

      December 14, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • cleat think the popo (govrenment) should be the ony ones with the guns eh?
      how has THAT worked out in history before...

      December 14, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Heather

      Is believing in freedom of speech also "hiding behind something that was written 200 years ago?"

      December 14, 2012 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
    • Fred

      I'm an "idiot and delusional". Right. Keep hiding behind your guns. Hopefully neither one of you experiences someone close to you get gunned down by some lunatic. Then the 2nd amendment starts to look a little less important. What if one of your kids or your little sister was at this school? Let's use our heads.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
    • sixin

      Simply an unrealistic solution to a problem. Try again.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
    • MWKilduff

      So, you don't believe all men are created equal? Or, that we should have freedom of speech or religion? Those were all written 200 years ago. Think before you type.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Scott


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    • Jim

      What does the age of something have to do with it's legitimacy? In comparison our form of government and our legal system were both modeled off of things that were over 1,000 years ago. Your argument really doesn't hold water......

      December 14, 2012 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
    • Ed

      Very well said.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
    • ChicagoAl2

      Just stop already. You do more damage with your vote than I'll ever do with my concealed weapon.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
    • caesarbc

      Fred thinks that if guns disappear, then there would be no more violence.

      what a naive sap.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
    • Daniel Crimmins

      Police carry guns to protect themselves, not you. A responsible gun owner is one of the millions of Americans who own guns and never commit an act of violence. We need sensible regulation to identify those prone to violence, and ensure they are not able to own guns.

      Would you support a ban on sports cars, given the role excessive speed plays in traffic deaths? Or should we put in place sensible restrictions to curtail excessive speed on the highways?

      Further, the right to keep and bear arms is every bit as intrinsic an individual right as the right to free speech, assembly, and due process. This is a tragedy, an appalling tragedy, but to use it as an excuse to ban weapons in the hands of law abiding citizens misses an opportunity for real dialogue. Do you really think the underlying problem here is the availability of fire arms, or the mental illness that leads a person to commit mass murder.

      Keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill is essential, and requires government regulation. An attempt to outlaw private gun ownership is a political non-starter, and does nothing to address the fundamental issue.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Calidip

      What in the world make syou think "a responsible gun owner" is law enforcement. Most cops can barely hit their target. I can out shoot them, and throw more rounds downrange in a weekend than they do an entire year.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Fred

      Daniel, I'd be inclined to agree with you that there are a good amount of people who own guns and never commit a crime. But the simple fact is that we can't predict when someone will fly off the handle or lose their grip on reality. Those are the people that obviously shoot up malls, schools, theaters, etc. Because there is no way to track this, this will continue to happen and perfectly law abiding citizens will continue to acquire weapons until they go nuts and decide they want to take a few people with them before putting a bullet in their head.
      I know a few people who own guns and are perfectly responsible with them, but until someone comes up with a better solution, something needs to be done. I'd hate to be one of those parents whose kids are in that school this morning. People need to put themselves in that situation and understand that these are just senseless deaths that could be minimized by removing one of those things from the equation. We will never stop violence or mental illness. However, if we remove guns from the entire equation, maybe we can make a dent in these types of crimes where 5 year old kids are shot in school. Isn't that worth the sacrifice?

      December 14, 2012 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
  10. caesarbc

    What a wonderful world to bring a child into!!!

    December 14, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
  11. Steve Wilson, Canada

    People can blame the so-called "gun culture" in the USA, the NRA, the "right wingers" or lack of gun control all they want... but at the end of the day when youi have 300 milion people in one country you will have a certain number of insane people. There is no cure and this problem will never end.

    I live in Canada where we have a lot less guns, better gun control, etc... but we ALSO have incidents such as this one. It happens less frequently of course, mainly due, in my opinion, to the differences in populations:

    Canada – 30 million

    USA – 300 million... I'm sure you'll agree that the USA will have more insane people than Canada would.

    It's not gun control that is needed... we have that up here. What we do NOT have is people walking around with a hand guns in their pockets, legally, of course. It is very difficult to get a hand gun permit up here and when you do, (it takes months) you can ONLY shoot the hand gun at an approved gun range. NOWHERE else... even if you live in the middle of nowhere, you cannot shoot even a little .22 at pop cans out in the back... that would be a criminal offence up here.

    I'm against handguns because for the most part, they are designed so they can be hidden and to kill people. People don't normally use handguns for hunting – they do, in a few USA states, for sport. I am a hunter and I own 8 sporting handguns.

    In Canada it is a criminal offence to own fully automatic weapons (we call them "prohibited" weapons) and any firearm that has a magazine capcity of more than 10 rounds is also prohibited, meaning, illegal. (Criminal Offence)

    One main difference between Canada and the USA when it comes to guns and gun laws is that there are some states in the USA where it is perfectly legal to own FULLY automatic weapons (assault type guns or machine guns) and I think that is insane. What the hell does anyone need a machine gun for? Eventually, that gun may end up in the hands of someone who is nuts, (gets stolen, for example) or by someone who owns it legally but – later in life goes nuts.

    The world has changed... cutlure has gone a sheet... sadly.

    Let's all at least TRY to have a SAFE holiday...

    December 14, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Sanity

      You say "Gun control is not what's needed", yet everything you talk about after that about why Canadian laws are better, are all forms of gun control. You are right, no one needs a hand gun, and to make laws around that is called 'gun control'. Let's implement it now!!!

      December 14, 2012 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
    • cleat

      full auto is VERY difficult to get– many states do not allow at all. TONS of background checks. and then the 20,000+ to buy one
      you NEVER hear of full auto crimes-they almost never happen.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Paris

      I disagree with your level of intensity on the subject matter, however it would seem that if guns weren't available fewer incidents would occur. That is a common law idea, and it has held truth. Now, it does not in any way say that it will eliminate incidents, but it will reduce it. However taking away "the right to carry" leaves good people without protection to take these numbskulls down when they enter personal boundaries. Of course, anyone who shoots a criminal will have to go before a judge. In my mind, that is stupid.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Marky Merlot

      USA vs Canada 2012 homicides: Detroit MI 365, Windsor ON (aka Detroit South) 1, yes ONE, and that's one more than 2011 and 2010. Adjusted for population, that's 365/3.5 and still NIL for 2011/2010!
      The biggest mis-statement is: Guns don't kill people, people kill people. True, but guns make it emotionally remote; you have to get up close to knife some one, and they have somewhat of a chance to defend them selves.
      Other western nations, watch in amazement at the stupidity and needlessness of it all.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
    • AN Texas

      Great post, thank you!

      Also, PLEASE CNN DO NOT POST THE SHOOTER'S FACE ON THE FRONT PAGE YOUR WEBSITE!!! Why give these people (like the Portland mall shooter, etc) the attention they are seeking. It just encourages more of this behavior. The news networks have got to start exercising some responsibility.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Steve Smith

      Why do we need automatic firearms? Good question. Here's the answer: We need automatic firearms to ensure the spirit of the Second Amendment can be carried out if need be. The Second Amendment isn't (and never has been) about hunting, and it's not just about personal self defense; it is about the right of the people to establish a new form of government if the old one no longer works (which is what our forefathers in the American Revolution did).

      December 14, 2012 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
  12. Donnie the Lion

    I get what you are saying, but studies of violence indicate shootings are "impersonal" ... stabbing, strangling, beating requires a separate level of psychological "buy-in."

    December 14, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
  13. Paris

    I love the journalist bringing this event to the news because now we can do things different. I know we won't, but...If this first class idiot wants a "shottin", we can come up there from the south and lay him down and shot "em" 200 times. If he thinks he can just go into an elementary school and hurt children, he SHOULD have another thing coming. I am so tired of poor children being threaten by idiots like this. I am ALSO tired of watching these numbskulls waste my tax dollars that I PAY for them to sit, eat, and poop in jail. Why can't the cops just shoot there and move on? Oh and put Manson down already...what a waste. Here I am in psychology and see no more benefits can come from counseling a psycho for this long. This shooter today better not walk away alive.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
  14. trex

    .....GOD BLESS TEACHERS..........................

    December 14, 2012 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
  15. Darkseider

    I'm not a conspiracy theorist but whenever there is anti-gun legislation on the table this stuff erupts. Seems like false flag events. Just too often to be coincidence.

    December 14, 2012 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
    • Dave

      I agree and was just thinking the same thing. Either the news media doesn't cover it...or the timing incidents are impeckable.

      December 14, 2012 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Expanse

      I would have rejected your theory had you not opened by proclaiming yourself not a conspiracy theorist.

      December 14, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
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