Kids slain at Connecticut school were 6, 7
December 15th, 2012
07:54 PM ET

Kids slain at Connecticut school were 6, 7

    • 20 children, six adults and the shooter are dead after shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, on Friday morning
    • Three law enforcement officials say Adam Lanza, 20, was the shooter, and that he died apparently by his own hand
    • Law enforcement officials say Lanza killed his mother, Nancy, at her Newtown home before going to the school
    • Victims' names released Saturday; all of the slain children were either 6 or 7 years old
    • Complete coverage: Connecticut school shooting

[Updated at 7:54 p.m. ET] Peter Lanza, father of alleged gunman Adam Lanza, released a statement Saturday expressing condolences to the families of victims.

"Our family is grieving along with all those who have been affected by this enormous tragedy. No words can truly express how heartbroken we are. We are in a state of disbelief and trying to find whatever answers we can," said the statement.

[Updated at 7:26 p.m. ET] U.S. President Barack Obama will go to Newtown on Sunday to meet with victims' families and first responders in the evening, the White House says.

He'll also speak at an interfaith vigil for the school's families. The vigil is scheduled for 7 p.m. ET Sunday.

[Updated at 7:12 p.m. ET] People are gathered outside Stratford (Connecticut) High School, for a vigil in honor of Victoria Soto, a 27-year-old first-grade teacher who was slain in Newtown.

Soto graduated from the Stratford high school in 2003.

[Updated at 6:22 p.m. ET] Earlier reports that the suspected shooter, Adam Lanza, had an altercation with four adults at the school on Thursday have been investigated and are not accurate, according to a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation.

Lt. J. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police noted in a news conference Saturday that he knew of no reports about Lanza being involved in any altercations at the school.

[Updated at 6:20 p.m. ET] Nancy Lanza’s brother James Champion, a law enforcement officer in New Hampshire, didn’t deliver a statement as expected. Instead, the sheriff of Rockingham County, New Hampshire, delivered a statement on the Champion family’s behalf:

“The family of Nancy Lanza share the grief of a community and the nation as we struggle to comprehend the tremendous loss that we all share. Our hearts and prayers are with those who share in this loss: their families, teachers, staff and the students of Sandy Brook Elementary school, the first responders, and to all others touched by this tragedy. On behalf of Nancy’s mother and siblings, we reach out to the community of Newtown and express our heartfelt sorrow for the incomprehensible and profound loss of innocence that has affected so many.

“The family requests that you respect their privacy during his time of anguish and loss.”

The chief of police in Kingston, New Hampshire, said that Nancy Lanza lived in Kingston for a good part of her life and was a "very, very kind, considerate, loving young lady."

"She was very involved in the community and very well respected."

[Updated at 5:51 p.m. ET] An uncle of suspect Adam Lanza, is expected to address reporters in the next few minutes in New Hampshire.

The uncle is brother of Adam Lanza's mother, Nancy Lanza. Law enforcement officials say Adam Lanza killed Nancy Lanza in her Newtown home before the shootings at the school.

[Updated at 5:39 p.m. ET] Here are the names of those killed at the school, as provided by state police. is publishing the full names of children only when parents have spoken publicly:

Charlotte, 6; Daniel, 7; Rachel Davino, 29; Olivia, 6; Josephine, 7; Ana, 6; Dylan, 6; Dawn Hochsprung, 47; Madeleine, 6; Catherine, 6; Chase, 7; Jesse, 6; James, 6; Grace, 7; Anne Marie Murphy, 52; Emilie Parker, 6; Jack, 6; Noah, 6; Caroline, 6; Jessica, 6; Avielle, 6; Lauren Rousseau, 30; Mary Sherlach, 56; Victoria Soto, 27; Benjamin, 6; Allison, 6.

[Updated at 5:38 p.m. ET] In a tearful talk with reporters, Robbie Parker, the 30-year-old father of 6-year-old Emilie Parker, who died in the shooting, said she was an exceptional artist who delighted in making cards and drawing pictures for people who needed an emotional lift.

"She always had a kind thing to say about everybody," he said. "I'm so blessed to be her dad."

He was teaching her Portuguese, and the last conversation he had with her - on Friday morning - was in that language, he said.

"She told me 'good morning' and asked how I was doing, and I said I was doing well," he said. Emilie told him she loved him, and they kissed before they left the home Friday morning, he said.

[Updated at 5:33 p.m. ET] Robbie Parker, the father of one of the victims - a 6-year-old girl - told reporters that she was "always smiling" and would, if she were alive, be one of the first people offering comfort to the relatives of the victims.

He thanked everyone who was offering condolences, and he offered his own to others who are suffering - including the family of the suspected shooter, Adam Lanza.

"I can’t imagine how hard this experience must be to you," Parker said, referring to the Lanza family.

He said his 6-year-old daughter was the "best friend" to her two younger sisters, and was teaching one of them to read.

"They looked to her when they needed comfort," Parker said. "Usually that's saved for a mom and a dad, but it was sweet to see ... how they would run to (her) for support and hugs and kisses.”

[Updated at 5:08 p.m. ET] "There will be time soon for a discussion of public policy issues surrounding yesterday’s events," Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy said in a televised address, "but what’s important right now is love, courage, and compassion."

"Love," he said, "as it has poured in from around the world.

"Courage, as it was demonstrated by the teachers and other adults in the school building, whose actions no doubt saved lives.

"Courage on display, as it always is, by all our first responders.

"Compassion, as shown by people around Connecticut who’ve arrived in Newtown wanting only to help."

[Updated at 4:39 p.m. ET] All of the slain children were either 6 or 7 years old, according to information released by state police. There were 12 girl victims; eight boys. All of the adults killed were women.

[Updated at 4:13 p.m. ET] The victims at the school ranged in age from 6 to 56, according to information released by state police.

Eighteen of the victims at the school were described as female; eight were male. Twenty-six people died at the school, excluding the gunman. Twenty were children; six were adults.

[Updated at 4:11 p.m. ET] More on what the state's chief medical examiner told reporters minutes ago in Newtown: He said the "long weapon" was used in the shooting, and that the weapon caused all of the wounds that he knew of.

He didn't say what that weapon was, but a law enforcement source has previously said that the gunman was found dead with next to three guns: a semi-automatic .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle and two pistols made by Glock and Sig Sauer.

The medical examiner, H. Wayne Carver II, said he personally did postmortem examinations of seven victims' bodies.

“All the wounds that I know of at this point were caused by the one weapon,” Carver said.

[Updated at 3:58 p.m. ET] State police have released a list of those killed. More on that to come.

[Updated at 3:55 p.m. ET] The state's chief medical examiner says he believes all of the victims were shot more than once.

The medical examiner, H. Wayne Carver II, speaking at a news conference in Newtown, said that all of the victims died of gunshot wounds, and the manner of death was homicide. The seven bodies he examined personally had three to 11 wounds each, he said.

“I believe everyone was hit more than once,” Carver said.

Postmortem examinations have been performed on all of the children; examinations of most of the adult bodies will be finished by this evening, Carver said.

Examinations of the bodies of Adam Lanza and his mother will be performed Sunday, Carver said. Lanza died at the school; his mother was killed at her home in Newtown, authorities have said.

Police said a list of the victims' names would soon be published.

[Updated at 3:26 p.m. ET] Victoria Soto and Lauren Rousseau, both teachers at the school, are among the dead, according to friends and family members.

Earlier, CNN reported that princial Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Sherlach were among the killed.

Although authorities have identified all of those killed, they have yet to release a formal list of names.

[Updated at 3:06 p.m. ET] Investigators say they believe Adam Lanza tried to buy a gun at Dick's Sporting Goods in Danbury on Tuesday, but was unsuccessful, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Susan Candiotti.

Employees at the store - some 12 miles from Sandy Hook Elementary - have been interviewed and have searched the store's surveillance cameras for evidence that Lanza had been there.

Also, a second law enforcement source has said that Lanza was involved in some kind of trouble at the school earlier this week. The source said the altercation was between Lanza and four adults, and occurred Thursday, the day before the shooting.

Three of those adults, the source added, were killed during Friday's shooting.

The source was unable to say whether the disagreement took place inside or outside the school, but said that it apparently had something to do with him trying to enter the school.

(Update, 6:22 p.m. ET - Reports that Adam Lanza, had an altercation with four adults at the school on Thursday have been investigated and are not accurate, according to a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation. Also, Lt. J. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police noted in a news conference Saturday that he knew of no reports about Vance being involved in any altercations at the school.)

[Updated at 1:36 p.m. ET] Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy is expected to make a live, televised statement about the shooting, addressed to Connecticut residents, at 5 p.m.

[Updated at 1:12 p.m. ET] Investigators have been told that Adam Lanza had some sort of altercation with some people at the school a few days before the shooting, a law enforcement official told CNN's Carol Cratty. The official did not know the nature of the altercation or who was involved in it with Lanza.

[Updated at 11:59 a.m. ET] Adam Lanza tried to buy a gun in the area Tuesday before the shooting, a law enforcement source said, according to CNN's Susan Candiotti.

The Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said it is contacting shooting ranges and gun stores in the area to try to establish whether Lanza sought to purchase guns or practice using them.

[Updated at 11:50 a.m. ET] The gunman had access to more guns than the three found at the elementary school, a law enforcement source told CNN's Susan Candiotti.

Police recovered three additional guns elsewhere. They are a .45-caliber Henry repeating rifle, a .22-caliber Marlin rifle, and a .30-caliber Enfield rifle, the source said.

[Updated at 10:28 a.m. ET] The victims have been positively identified by the chief state medical examiner, state police spokesman Lt. J. Paul Vance said in a press conference Saturday morning. The medical examiner is expected to release their names and birth dates in the next few hours.

It appears that the assailant "forced his way into the school," Vance said. Detectives continue to investigate the crime scene and will remain there for at least another day or two, Vance said. So far, investigators looking for a motive have found "some very good evidence," that will help them paint a complete picture of how and why this happened, he said.

The home of a woman believed to be the gunman's mother is also being investigated. After killing his mother, investigators believe the gunman took her guns and made his way to the elementary school.

Help for victims of Sandy Hook shooting

[Updated at 10:13 a.m. ET] The victims' bodies have been transported to the Office of the Chief State's Medical Examiner, where a post mortem examination will be conducted to determine manner and cause of death, the Connecticut State Police said in press release.

[Updated at 10 a.m. ET] Friday's shooting has sparked passionate nation conversation on a variety of issues, from school safety and gun control to mental health treatment. In a heated discussion, CNN's Piers Morgan and guests debate the need for stricter gun control laws in America.

Updated at 8:45 a.m. ET] The suspect in the shooting may have had access to at least five guns, a law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the investigation said Saturday.

Three weapons were recovered from the school on Friday: a semi-automatic .223 caliber rifle made by Bushmaster found in a car in the school parking lot, and two pistols made by Glock and a Sig Sauer found with suspected gunman Adam Lanza's body, a law enforcement source said previously.

[Updated at 8:26 a.m. ET] Pope Benedict XVI expressed "his heartfelt grief and the assurance of his closeness in prayer to the victims and their families and all to affected" by the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, in a letter to the Diocese of Bridgeport Administrator Monsignor Jerald A. Doyle.

[Updated at 4:50 a.m. ET] Father William Hamilton, a volunteer chaplain for 30 years with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in New England said the Connecticut school shootings is the worse thing he's seen in his years counseling responders and victims’ families. “It’s beyond the scope of imagination. Parents are not supposed to have to bury their children," Hamilton told CNN. "This is the Christmas season. This season will never ever be the same for these families. It will over time perhaps get better, but it will always be a part of their history.”

[Updated at 1:30 a.m. ET]  A  family member of suspected shooter Adam Lanza told investigators that he had a form of autism, according to a law enforcement official, who spoke under condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the investigation.

[Updated at 12:30 a.m. ET]  Despite earlier reports that said she was a teacher, Nancy Lanza, the suspect's mother, was not a teacher at the school where the killings took place, said Janet Vollmer, a kindergarten teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Not much is known about the suspect's mother or the suspect Adam Lanza.  In September 2009 - when Adam Lanza was 17 - his mother and father divorced, court documents show. What happened after that for him, what caused the shootings that has shocked the nation, isn't clear.

[Updated at 11:18 p.m. ET] Aimee Seaver, the mother of a first-grade girl at Sandy Hook and a fifth-grader who attends a different school, told CNN's Anderson Cooper that her children are having trouble dealing with what happened.

"It's a very rough night here," she said. "When your first-grader goes to bed and says, 'Mommy, is anyone from my class last year - are they all OK?' and you look at them and say, 'I'm not really sure,' it's a rough night to tell that to your 7-year-old."

Her younger daughter has asked a lot of questions about Principal Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung, who was killed.

“She got wind very quickly that something was wrong with our principal, which we didn’t tell her till just now that yes, she was definitely hurt and it wasn’t good," Seaver said. "It’s taking her a while. I think tomorrow will probably be harder for her.

“I also have a fifth-grader who came off the bus crying because she … had a sister who she was worried about, and … just basically left that school a few months ago. I think for a lot of those kids, they kind of are a little older and can get it a little bit faster, even though they weren’t in it.

“So the questions, I think, are coming. They’re not here, yet, especially for the littler ones. It started as I put them to bed tonight, the questions.”

[Updated at 10:50 p.m. ET] Janet Vollmer, a kindergarten teacher at the school, says she locked her classroom doors and - to keep her students calm - read them a story until the police came.

Vollmer, her 19 students and the adult helpers in her classroom were not injured.

"You could hear what sounded like pops, gunshots. Of course, I’m not going to tell that to 5-year-olds, so I said to them, ‘We’re going over in a safe area,'" Vollmer told CNN's Anderson Cooper. "And we read a story and we kept them calm, did a lockdown drill, closed the doors, locked (them), covered the windows, and kept the children with us.”

She said the children knew something unusual was going on.

“It didn’t seem a natural thing (to the children), although we do practice drills," Vollmer said. "We said, ‘We’re not really sure, but we’re going to be safe, because we’re sitting over here and we’re all together.’”

soundoff (1,251 Responses)
  1. Nina

    As long as the NRA continues to control Politicians, policy will never change.

    December 15, 2012 at 1:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • Stormlighter

      Agreed....that's why I posted what I just did below you.

      December 15, 2012 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • TimB

      The NRA stands in the way of a more peaceful and safe America. They remind me of the Tobacco Industry lobby of 20 yrs ago...spreading lies about how much damage their product does to American society. The NRA is, in my view, a danger to the country with the power they wield over our politicians. Their goals and ideals are not in out best interests.

      December 15, 2012 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • neil

      NRA has nothing to do with this. I keep hearing this issue is about gun control, this issue is about 4 things: 1. Our sociaty with violent video games, movies and music. This does not happen this frequently anywhere where else in the globe but here. Leads me to believe its now a trend with the mentally insane. 2. Parents who allow exposure to these things and then leave easy access to guns THEY own, not the mentally ill kids. Ive own guns for over 15 years, carry it concealed where allowed as im licensed almost everywhere loaded and ready to go in the event of a real emergency that could happen anywhere. 3. Our school are not protected, they need bullet proof glass and armed police at every school ALL the time, not just park the police car and go elsewhere. 4. Treatment for the mentally ill needs to be enforced and parents of those kids should NOT be allowed to own guns.

      December 15, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Enoch

    Drones don't kill people. People kill people.

    With drones.

    December 15, 2012 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Stormlighter

    I'd say it's high time that America and it's government come together to break the stranglehold that the NRA has on our Congress. Hardly any Congress member will appear on camera to discuss gun control, because they're that afraid of the NRA's political clout and power. Have you gone to the NRA's website?? I just did. NOTHING on there about what happened in Conn. No remembrance page, icon...NOTHING!!! Why?? Because they don't care!!!! Google has a candle icon to remember these victims...GOOGLE!!! But the most powerful lobby in Washington can't be bothered!!! Don't believe me....see for yourself!!!!

    December 15, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • neil

      this has nothing to do with the NRA, did you visit the websites of Call of duty vidoe game creators, violent movie creators or music industry?? nothing there either huh? these issue are not being looked at clearly.

      December 15, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dennis

      And we haven't heard a word out of the NRA or Wayne La Pierre since this tragic incident,have we?

      December 15, 2012 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
  4. NukeTim

    Too many guns out there.

    Does one need an assault rifle to hunt deer, for example?

    Because of the ease of availability of weapons, the kook who wants guns will get them; EASILY.

    December 15, 2012 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
  5. DYWLF

    The communist news network, disseminator of the government propaganda blows their horn and the simple gather. The one thing I can say with certainity is they have no shame.

    December 15, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Btea5503

    Not intentionally!

    December 15, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
  7. j dixon

    To ted7117, First off may GOD bless the victims and their families, Now guns dont kill people , people kill people, Knifes, Cars, Planes, baseballbats, Poison, Animals, bombs, ferries, Trains,Terrorists, So you should get the point!. Tragic things happen. We dont want them to but they do, Personally i think there should should be armed security at every school ! We nave security at banks,ceo,government offices, Is our children not that important? our schools are government funded. The government should protect and ser, We are all ways going to have guns!

    December 15, 2012 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Matt Miller

      Yes, People kill people, BUT, if people did not have access to 'guns', then it would be allot harder for people to kill people! eg England! This is not 1776, its 2012, and the 'right to bear arms' is literaly 'killing us' :-(((((( Furthermore, do you expect 5 year olds to "bear arms' to defend themselves? Everyone should carry a gun? This tragedy will hopefully wake up everyone, that this has GOT to change!

      December 15, 2012 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Us soldier

    Look gun control is not the answer, this is just an excuse to push a new law, like 9/11 was an excuse to take out Afghanistan and Iraq which btw we never proved they had weapons of mass destruction, they did at one point sold oil in euros and once Hussein was dead and we put out puppet leader it was once again sold in dollars. Guys check wats really going on. The false flag and petrodollar and Israel with

    December 15, 2012 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Timothy Lee Miller, composer

    You know, I keep hearing people talk about gun control – a CNN reporter just interrupted a pastor he was interviewing, saying – "It's was guns, GUNS!! The pastor was trying to get across the point about the level of violence in our society. Every single day, there are advertisements for games like Mortal Combat on TV that are enticing kids to take out their anxieties in these very realistic games. Have you seen them? Why is nobody talking about this? If you want to stop the violence, stop teaches kids how to be so violent in these games. I am appalled at the level of violence I see in the ads. I can only imagine what the games are like. When my son sees these ads on TV (and he is 4), he cringes and hides his face. We teach love and using your words to resolve conflicts in our house, NOT violence and anger!!

    In short, guns are not the issue. VIOLENCE is the issue. Teaching kids that violence is like a game and is is okay is the real issue at hand!! CNN – why are you not talking about this???

    December 15, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Marty

      Mortal Combat? Wow, I guess you haven't read up on what people play since 1992. And it's Mortal Kombat. Pretty sure my mom is more in the know about video games than you.

      December 15, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • neil

      AMEN!!! .... I will never turn my gun in as long as other crazy people have access NEVER

      December 15, 2012 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bevlan

      Thanks for posting this. Don Lemon obviously has an agenda and anyone who doesn't support it, will be cut of and treated rudely. NEWS is suppose to be about gathering information and different opinions. Mr. Lemon DEFINITELY missed that point this morning. They need to give him a leave of absence.
      This horrendous tragedy is about MUCH MORE than guns. Mental health, violence, educating all of us to recognize signs of predators, "other centered" people who are so self-focused that "others" have no value in their mental-emotional world, all come to mind as this is blazed before us.
      Anyway-I'm grieiving for these families with empty arms today, and praying for them and the law enforcement people who are immersed in this investigation.
      Thanks, again. It's comforting to know I was not the only one offended by Mr. Lemon's lack of respect for the pastor and others who aren't on his agenda rage.

      December 15, 2012 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  10. I took a health Obama and wiped my Biden

    It doesn't matter...The whole world is getting more wicked. The next tragedy will be horrific.

    December 15, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Us soldier

    Maria this is a tragedy 20 children is horrible I joined the military to protect the freedoms of all those kids and Americas interest to keep our nation powerful. I am a dad of two boys anime is in kindergarden god forbid skirting happens. But you Maria are blind and don't see the bigger picture. You let emotions take the best and riot for fun control and so forth. Read on why things really happen and how the Washington elites use this tragedies for their interests aka 9/11. Knowledge is power

    December 15, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Doubter

    I wish he were watching yesterday!

    Seriously, how can there possibly be a loving God? What compelling argument can possibly be made that our 'creater' allowed the lives of these young children to be wasted?

    December 15, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Robert Waters

    Until better solutions are developed, we need to treat these shooter situations as TERRORISTS. Following 9-11 we did not ban aircraft and box cutters! We put our nation on full alert! We placed heavily armed officers with dogs in key positions. We told the public they needed to be constantly on the alert. Report the unusual, the out of place objects or happenings. And we did it with vigor! Hot lines!!

    December 15, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      I agree, 100%, we as a Nation need to stop being passive. Tragedies happen, we react as a society, blame this thing or that person but do nothing about it. The time to be aggressive is now. I for one would feel a lot safer for my family and my self. We spend billions of our tax dollars on useless things like studies and assisting other country's. We need to come together as a Nation and demand immediate change. The President has a duty to make this happen as do the leaders we elected. Instead of lining their pockets and taking care of special interest groups, we need to empower people that will actually work for all Americans. Mr. President, you were elected to your second term, we ask that you find a solution to this problem and immediately implement it.

      December 15, 2012 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brainio

      Right on, comrade.

      December 15, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
  14. fearlessdude

    It was the gun culture in the family. This guy grew up with guns.

    December 15, 2012 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
  15. GunControlNow

    This will do it. Ban all guns. Only jerks own them anyway. This event will not fade. NRA can move to Afganistan.

    December 15, 2012 at 1:55 pm | Report abuse |
    • TW

      Really .. so explain how banning guns will work. This guy was a lunatic and criminal, and had guns in the school which is a GUN FREE ZONE. It didn't deter him at all.

      He was a lunatic...and he just doesn't care about laws, nor do criminals. Last week an idiot broke into my car, causing $900 dollars damage, and got away with about $25 in change. He didn't care that he caused that much damage to my car, or that I would have to drive around for a week with plastic on the window and possible get broken into again. He just wanted the $25 for his next fix. Why do you think a gun control law would stop someone like that?

      December 15, 2012 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brendan

      Only idiots rely on the police for security who have no duty to provide you with it.

      December 15, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Scott

      I am hoping you have an even stronger feeling toward alcohol since there were between 75,000 to 100,000 deaths related to alcohol last year.

      December 15, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • rofl

      Haha, you're delusional. The event is already fading. And the more cry babies like you squawk, the more apathetic it makes everyone else feel.

      December 15, 2012 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • neil

      No way jose, never giving my gun...your a jerk.

      December 15, 2012 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jason

      Only jerks own them anyway?

      I own two, only you’d never know it because I dislike gun culture and almost never talk about them. I have them for self-defense, and for defense of the innocent, only because there are so many dumb animals running around with them. I couldn’t be more careful or take more precautions because, for the disturbed individuals that do things like this, they must get them from somewhere – and it seems that in this case access is a big part of the issue.

      Why were there five guns available? Why weren’t they secured by the person who owned them legally? Gun owners are 100% responsible for their weapons and keeping them safe from the public. I’m not saying this shooter wouldn’t have been able to acquire a gun on his own, somehow, but there is certainly a carelessness about the way he was provided access to so many that weren’t his.

      December 15, 2012 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Wayne Dunn

      I agree jason! All but one of my guns are VERY secure: ALL guns have a trigger lock; I remove the bolts from the bolt-action models, and the trigger assembly from the shotguns, then keep each gun in a LOCKED hard plastic case, then place the bolts, etc. in a locked safe! Foolproof? not really, but they certainly can't be used by anyone without a lot of effort and knowledge.

      December 15, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • manuel

      Hey TW.? That is exactly why there should be a ban guns. There too many lunatics out there. We must stop these lunatics from getting guns. It is impossible to control another persons mind. It is impossible to stop someone from committing a crime. There is bigger chance of stopping everyone, sane or insane, criminal or straight, from getting a gun and using it to hurt others.

      December 15, 2012 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
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