December 16th, 2012
10:27 PM ET

'These tragedies must end, and to end them we must change'

  • President heads list of dignitaries and local clergy members offering comfort to the people of Newtown, Connecticut
  • 20 children, six adults and the shooter are dead after shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Friday morning
  • Police: Nancy Lanza, mother of gunman, died from multiple gunshot wounds
  • Gunman Adam Lanza had assault rifle magazines that held 30 bullets each, police said
  • Victims' names released Saturday; all of the slain children were either 6 or 7 years old
  • Complete coverage: Connecticut school shooting
  • Soledad O'Brien will be live from Newtown, Connecticut, with advice and insight from Deepak Chopra and from people who have been through other shootings. Watch Starting Point, live at 6 a.m. ET Monday.

[Update 10:27 p.m. ET] Christina Hassinger, 30, the daughter of slain Sandy Hook Elementary Principal Dawn Hochsprung, sent out this tweet after meeting with President Obama before the prayer vigil.


[Updated 9:39 p.m.] A long silence followed the conclusion of President Obama's remarks before the audience began to applaud. The president walked off the stage to return to the floor, but a woman stopped him, turned him around and sent him back up the stairs to the stage. He stopped and waved briefly to the still-applauding crowd before exiting backstage.

The Rev. Bob Weiss, pastor of Newtown's St. Rose of Lima Roman Catholic Church, then offered a prayer for the community's resilience in the times to come.

The Rev. Rob Morris, vicar of King Lutheran Church, gave a benediction before asking the audience to remain in the auditorium, comforting one another, at least until word came that the president had safely exited the school campus.

Read the full text of Obama's speech here.

[Updated at 9:13 p.m. ET] The president recalled a saying that having children is "like walking around with your heart outside your body" before pausing a moment to wipe a tear from his left eye.

"This job of keeping our children safe and teaching them well is something we can only do together," he told the hushed audience. "This is our first task: taking care of our children. It's our first job. If we don't get that right, we don't get anything right."

He then asked whether "we as a nation" are meeting that obligation.

"The answer is no, and we will have to change," he said.

Obama said this was the fourth mass shooting during his presidency, and there were countless other acts of gun violence on a smaller scale.

"We can't tolerate this anymore," he said. "These tragedies must end, and to end them we must change."

[Updated at 9:02 p.m. ET] Saying "we can't accept events like this as routine," President Barack Obama said Sunday he'll use whatever power he has to prevent more tragedies like what happened Friday in Newtown, Connecticut. "Surely we can do better than this," the president said.

[Updated at 8:52 p.m. ET] President Barack Obama is speaking to the crowd, which is remaining almost completely silent.

"We gather here in memory of 20 beautiful children and six remarkable adults," he said. "... I come to offer the love and prayers of a nation."

He assured the people of Newtown that the entire nation felt the loss.

"Our world too has been torn apart. All across this land of ours we have wept with you. We have pulled our children tight. ... Newtown, you are not alone."

[Updated at 8:37 p.m. ET] Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy spoke briefly, saying "We will get better," before introducing President Barack Obama.

[Updated at 8:30 p.m. ET] Newtown First Selectwoman Patricia Llodra said Friday's mass murder was "a defining moment," but it would not itself define Newtown. "We are defined by acts of courage, by love and by our continuing love for our children and families," she said.

[Updated at 8:25 p.m. ET] John Woodall, leader of the local Baha'i community, described "a burning grief" that accompanies the loss of a child, a loss that is "beyond the depth of human endurance." However, he said the sacred scripture of the Baha'i faith offers this admonishment: "Be thou not disconsolate. Do not languish. Do not sigh and weep. For agitatation and mourning affect the soul - the divine soul in the eternal realm."

Leo McIlrath, ecumenical chaplain of the Lutheran Home of Southbury, Connecticut, offered a prayer for the counselors, clergy and caregivers who are trying to comfort the bereaved.

[Updated at 8:16 p.m. ET] A young boy named Jason Graves sang a Muslim chant before Muadh Bhavnagarwala with Newtown's  Al Hedaya Islamic Center offered a one-minute homily. "Verily, with every difficulty there is ease," Bhavnagarwala said, quoting from the Quran in a quavering voice.

Jane Sibley, minister of visitation and spiritual growth, Newtown United Methodist Church, offered a prayer for first responders.

[Updated at 7:58 p.m. ET] Rabbi Shaul Praver, rabbi of Congregation Adathi in Newtown, sang the traditional Hebrew memorial prayer. The Rev. Mel Kawakami, senior minister of Newtown United Methodist Church, stood by his side, wearing a white surplice embroidered with colorful butterflies.

"There is no death, just transformation. May they rest in peace," Praver said.

Kawakami offered a prayer for the dead and the grieving, "for we are all a family as children of God," he said. "We embrace the grieving as our own. Bring us together in peace and amity."

[Updated at 7:49 p.m. ET] President Obama has entered the auditorium to brief, polite applause and quickly taken a seat on the main floor. The Rev. Matt Crebbin, senior minister of the Newtown Congregational Church, is opening the prayer vigil with welcoming remarks.

[Updated at 7:30 p.m. ET] Attendees at the prayer vigil rose to give first responders - paramedics, police officers, firefighters and others - a long standing ovation when they entered the auditorium.

[Updated at 7:07 p.m. ET] The start of the interfaith prayer vigil is delayed as President Obama continues to meet with first responders and families of victims behind closed doors. Sources at Newtown High School say 900 people are in the auditorium for the service, with 1,300 others in the gymnasium overflow.

[Updated at 6:15 p.m. ET] Connecticut's retiring U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman, Sen. Richard Blumenthal, and Sen.-elect Christopher Murphy are circulating through the Newtown High School Auditorium and speaking with townsfolk assembling there for this evening's prayer vigil.

[Updated at 5:47 p.m. ET] President Barack Obama is meeting with the families of victims and with first responders before this evening's prayer vigil at Newtown High School.

[Updated at 4:03 p.m. ET] President Barack Obama has just landed in Connecticut where he will meet with family members and first responders.  Obama will then attend an interfaith vigil in Newtown, Connecticut.

[Updated at 3:47 p.m. ET] Adam Lanza was identified for the first time by Connecticut State Police as the gunman in Friday's shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Lt. J. Paul Vance said that Lanza died as a result of suicide using a handgun. Vance added that Lanza's mother, Nancy Lanza, died as a result of "multiple gunshot wounds" in her home.

Vance also told reporters that Adam Lanza used the Bushmaster AR-15 "assault-type weapon" most of the time at the school.

Lanza was armed with magazines that held 30 bullets each, according to Vance. He added that there were hundreds of bullets for the other weapons as well.

Vance told reporters that an additional weapon, a shotgun, was recovered from a vehicle Lanza parked outside of the school. The gunman also had a Glock 10mm and a Sig Sauer 9mm, multiple magazines and additional ammunition.

[Updated at 2:43 p.m. ET] Six-year-old Jessica Rekos was hoping to get cowgirl boots and a cowgirl hat for Christmas. Now her family is left mourning the loss of her young life.

Jessica's family sent us in a photo and statement that they wanted us to share with the world about her:

"Jessica loved everything about horses. She devoted her free time to watching horse movies, reading horse books, drawing horses, and writing stories about horses. We had promised her she could have her very own horse when she turned 10. She asked Santa for new cowgirl boots and a cowgirl hat. She was a creative, beautiful little girl who loved playing with her little brothers, Travis and Shane. She spent time writing in her journals, making up stories, and doing "research" on orca whales – one of her passions after seeing the movie Free Willy last year. She said her dream was to see a real orca. Thankfully her dream was realized in October when she went to SeaWorld.

Jessica was our first born. She started our family, and she was our rock. She had an answer for everything, she didn't miss a trick, and she outsmarted us every time. We called her our little CEO for the way she carefully thought out and planned everything. We can not imagine our life without her. We are mourning her loss, sharing our beautiful memories we have of her, and trying to help her brother Travis understand why he can't play with his best friend. We are devastated, and our hearts are with the other families who are grieving as we are."

You can read more about the rest of the victims in our interactive here, which will be updated as we get more photos and statements from family members.

[Updated at 2:13 p.m. ET] Lee Shull doesn’t want to feel helpless anymore.

That's why as a parent of a child at Sandy Hook Elementary school he gathered other Newtown, Connecticut, residents together on Sunday for a meeting to try to figure out what happened and how they can ensure it doesn't happen again.

The group was seeking to move forward a conversation about gun laws, mental health and the moral fabric of our country in the wake of another deadly shooting.

"We’re trying to get the word out to this country that we thought this was a safe community," Shull said. "This can happen anywhere. We need to start here and learn from this event."

Shull said his family is feeling the impact of the shooting personally. While he’s never met the gunman, his daughter was in a classroom where children were gunned down. Three other girls who shared a dance studio with his daughter are now dead.

[Updated at 1:31 p.m. ET] We've just learned that officials have given the "all-clear" at the St. Rose of Lima Roman Catholic Church in Newtown, Connecticut. The church had been evacuated due to an unspecified threat.

[Updated at 1:27 p.m. ET]  Authorities evacuated a Catholic church in Newtown, Connecticut, Sunday. It was unclear why the St. Rose of Lima Roman Catholic Church had been evacuated.

Witnesses said authorities told them to leave the church premises.  A column of armed police officers walked across the church property and entered a building next to the church's parking lot.

The church is less than two miles from Sandy Hook Elementary School.

[Updated at 1:03 p.m. ET] Lillian Bittman, a former chairwoman of the Newtown Board of Education, struggled to speak about the victims killed at Sandy Hook Elementary school.

She knew some of them directly, including Principal Dawn Lafferty Hochsprung, who she helped appoint.

“Everyone just feels violated,” she said of the town and the school she had been involved with for over 15 years. "It's unbelievable that this could happen to a little school that had so much joy in it."

Bittman said the school had done everything they thought they could to protect the children. And she hopes that out of tragedy, the country can find a way to move forward in a meaningful way.

"I need the country and the world to understand that out of this we have to bring good. This was an idyllic setting for children and now children, young children, have died," she told CNN's Don Lemon. "When Columbine happened, our school put in a buzzer system. But this keeps happening."

Bittman said that the families of those who were murdered are understandably "a mess" right now. She feels the same. The question now, she said, is whether we can put aside our differences as a country on mental health and gun control issues to make sure something as tragic as this doesn't happen again.

"We as a country have to use this to come together and look at all the solutions. What can the world do? Love each other and work together," she said. "Figure this out so no more six-year-olds die or have to watch their teacher die in their classroom."

[Updated at 12:12 p.m. ET] We are learning more details about the victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

Here's what the family of Olivia Rose Engel, 6, wanted to share about her:

"Olivia Rose Engel was a precocious and completely endearing six-year old. She loved school, and was very good at math and reading. She was creative, loved craft projects and art class, and loved participating in as many sports and activities as her mom Shannon could get her to- from tennis to swimming, ballet to soccer, Daisy Girl Scouts to musical theater, and her church’s CCD program, nothing was off limits for little girl who’s favorite colors were pink and purple. Olivia was always keen to take a spin on the lake and Sound on her dad or grandpa’s Whaler. She was a patient big sister to three-year old Brayden, lead Grace each evening at the dinner table, and was a six-year old with a lot to look forward to."

To learn more about the victims, please look at our interactive, which will be updated as we get more information.

[Updated at 12:12 p.m. ET] U.S. Sen. Richard Blumenthal said he has been touched by the "strength and resilience' of the community of Newtown in the wake of the school shooting.

"I don’t think I will ever forget the cries of grief and pain that I saw at that firehouse," Blumenthal, a Democrat representing Connecticut said, referring to the area where families gathered to learn if their loved ones were alive or dead.

[Updated at 12:02 p.m. ET] Authorities still have many witnesses, including children, that they will interview in the investigation of a Connecticut elementary school shooting, Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance told reporters Sunday.

"Our people are talking with everybody slowly but surely, but methodically, too," he said. "This is something where people's hearts are broken, as we all well know. And we have to be sensitive."

[Updated at 11:54 a.m. ET] Authorities investigating the Connecticut elementary school shooting are analyzing evidence they've collected, including firearms, Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance told reporters Sunday.

"We are tracing them historically to all the way back on the workbench when they were being assembled," he said.

[Updated at 11:50 a.m. ET] Inaccurate information about the Connecticut elementary school shooting is spreading on social media, and authorities could prosecute those responsible, Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance told reporters Sunday.

Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance addresses reporters on Sunday morning.

"Misinformation is being posted on social media sites," he said. "There has been misinformation from people posing as the shooter in this case, posing using other IDs. Mimicking this crime and crime scene and criminal activity that took place in this community. There's been some things in somewhat of a threatening manner. ... These issues are crimes. They will be investigated. ... Prosecution will take place when people who are perpetrating this information are identified."

[Updated at 11:47 a.m. ET] Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California said Sunday the president will soon have legislation "to lead on" in the gun control debate, announcing she will introduce a bill next month in the Senate to place a ban on assault weapons.

"We'll be prepared to go, and I hope the nation will really help," Feinstein said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

The senator said she'll introduce the bill when Congress reconvenes in January and the same legislation will also be proposed in the House of Representatives.

"We're crafting this one. It's being done with care. It'll be ready on the first day," she said, adding that she'll soon announce the House authors.

"It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation, and the possession. Not retroactively, but prospectively. It will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets," she said. "There will be a bill."

[Updated at 9:59 a.m. ET] The gunman used his weapon to force his way into the building, the state's governor told CNN Sunday.

"He penetrated the building by literally shooting an entrance into the building. That's what an assault weapon can do for you," Gov. Dan Malloy told CNN's Candy Crowley.

Gunman described as quiet, withdrawn

Malloy also said he was the one who broke the news to families that their loved ones had died at the school.

"It's a very difficult thing to do," he said. "The parents had been gathered for a number of hours, clinging to hope. ...And you can never be prepared for that, to tell 18-20 folks, or actually families, that their loved one would not be returning to them that day or in the future."

The Connecticut governor also discussed wanting tougher federal laws.

[Updated at 7:00 a.m. ET] Here's a quick look at the latest updates in the Connecticut elementary school shooting:

Relatives of the victims will meet with President Barack Obama on Sunday when the president visits.

All the victims died from gunshot wounds and were struck multiple times, said H. Wayne Carver II, Connecticut's chief medical examiner. Their deaths were classified as homicides.

All 20 of the slain children were either 6 or 7 years old.

Investigators have been combing "every crack and crevice" of the school and have found some "very good evidence" there and at suspect Adam Lanza's home, where his mother Nancy was killed.

The deadly shooting that shattered this quiet New England town also reignited the ongoing debate about gun laws in America.

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  1. bob

    Im a gun owner and good with that. More laws will not help. We need to enforce the ones we have. I do agree there is a serious problem with access to weapons and this tragedy would not have been as bad if the shooter had not had access to the weapons he did. I think the bigger question is what is wrong in our society where a young man can actually think that a crime like this is the the way to react. You can assume he was insane because this is the act of a mad man. What could possible drive a person to this point. There could not have been a more innocent set of victims. Young children that had hurt no one. Where could all of this rage had come from and how could no one have seen any signs of this.

    December 16, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • MLA

      Here is the problem. Mental disease is not treated like a medical disease. Therefore, individuals will not get help they so desperately need.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Texs

    Stop spending money on enforcing Marijuana laws. TODAY.
    Stop spending millions to run people down in high speed chases with helicopters and teams of people carrying GUNS for enforcement of Marijuana laws.
    Retrain all these trigger happy DEA officers to work at psychiatric hospitals and get the mentally ill back to the places they should be. For the kids.

    December 16, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • CancunCasper

      Nice comment! I totally am on that page! Lets get real people!

      December 16, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Jonathan

    The problem is not guns. The problem is that ammunition is not regulated. No one should be allowed to purchase that much ammo. If you purchase a gun for self defense then you shouldn't be able to purchase anything more then lets say one clip with five rounds in it. For hunting use would obviously be more. I also support the ban of assault weapons.

    December 16, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeremy

      What's a "clip" "assault weapon"? Do YOU know or are you just repeating something you saw on TV?

      It's called can make all the ammo you want.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      So why would you not make multiple trips to Walmart to get the ammo over several months??

      December 16, 2012 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jonathan

      I don't know exact terms. I don't own a gun nor do I want one. I guess I meant a gun magazine. A person who purchases a gun for self defense should only be allowed to buy one magazine and no more for that gun. I don't know if there is already but I assume they would need to develop some way of tracking this so people don't cheat the system. I live in NJ where gun laws are strict and even here someone like my Stepfather who is an abusive alcohalic was able to buy two hand guns. He went nuts one night and I had to have him arrested and the guns taken away.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeremy

      Great just what we need....more Govt insight into our lives....
      *knock knock* I'm here to check on your magazine for your weapon and make sure you don't have any "extra".

      No thank you..too much govt interference now...

      December 16, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • lbeacham

      How would you practice so you wouldn't shoot your eye out?

      December 16, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • lbeacham

      Ammo can be made at home. You can't win. People will always have weapons. They will always ned them until Christ come again.

      December 16, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Awetmedic

    This won't be necessary, the GOP is driving themselves into obscurity.

    December 16, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      Thanks to the NRA you are right.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • lbeacham

      We will rise like the Phoenix. Only this time we will Conservatives.

      December 16, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
  5. L.Sanfod

    The entire board and officers of the NRA should be required to watch and listen, every month for the rest of their lives, to the parents of these little children as they grieve over their loss.

    December 16, 2012 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • MLA

      I agree with much of what you said but, also weapons have saved alot of individuals too. . . .

      December 16, 2012 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Tim G

      Agreed, this is another example of sensless loss of human life....children.., time and time again the NRA try to justify these weapons but I have never heard of an instance where a weapon like this has saved a life in defence. There has been numerous instances where innocent victims have died. The NRA, weak politicians that support them have the blood of these innocent children on there hands. These weapons are design to kill humans......we are responsible to protect children. For the people that set policy you need to correct this before another life is lost. and history repeats itself again..we shall share in your loss with heavy hearts...


      December 16, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • eheaton25

      Again the blame is placed on the guns rather than the people/person that pulled the trigger. Finland has one of the strictest gun control laws on the books yet it didn't stop a kid from killing in a school. The same is true for Norway and its rampage killer. You can ban every gun in the world and it won't stop these people from finding them and using them. America must change its culture of violence to start changing behaviors. This combined with increased availability of mental health treatments would be a good start. It is unbelievable that hollywood and video game makers do not come under fire for the graphic violence they create and market around this country. It's amazing people here can't see the forest from the trees.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
  6. MLA

    ............Heaven just received twenty beautiful Angels (children) . ...........

    I just want to comment on CNN Reporter Wolf. Wolf mentions about those with mental illness (Wolf please use Mental Disease as it is more appropriate) and should they be allowed to buy weapons. . . . . .Most individuals who suffer from depression, anxiety or PTSD or any other mental disease do not commit crime.

    Furthermore, many individuals with no history of mental illness commit horrific crime. Just saying. . . . . .

    December 16, 2012 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
  7. feku

    I am not sure if I am an anti or pro guns....., but someone said Don't ban guns ban the crazy people from the society.
    Well, how do you identify these "crazy people"???.. They are coming from our surroundings and from common families.
    I think the video games are one of the major culprits in these incidents.
    Most if these games are violence, killings, blood and destruction. Does anyone think these games might be making/fueling those "crazy people"???

    December 16, 2012 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      Are the Muslims financing the companies making violent games so that we all kill each other? This question begs to be asked.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • eheaton25

      Finally a voice of reason. These people that create graphically violent games and movies should carry some of the cost of treating and protecting the people that are victims of violence.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |
  8. John

    I personally would like to know why gun control people go after guns rather than the training kids receive. If someone trains each day, to kill people, what exactly did you expect when they do what they trained to do after all that training each day, hour after hour... blood, guts, easy kills, god mode...

    December 16, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
  9. john

    I have never been around a weapon that kills people on its own. If the gun is the reason then arrest the gun and lock it up for life. There will be a lot of open jail space when the murders are let out of prison bc they shot someone.

    December 16, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • NJD

      Guns don't kill people, people kill people. You hear that lame excuse all the time. Those semi-automatic guns are just too much of a menace and should be banned or 'restricted'...

      December 16, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse |

    The bible, teachings of Christ, and prayer are allowed in every jail and prisons, but it's not allowed in schools? We have sacrifice our children to demonic spirits manifested in evil men such as this one and now we ask, "WHERE WAS GOD OR WHY DIDN'T GOD STOP THIS"??? Why would God protect our children when God has been kicked out from schools and public places, but yet, the prisoners are learning much more about God then our children?

    Hmmmmmmmmmmm..........something is so wrong with our nation. God doesn't need to bless America, America needs to RETURN back to God.

    December 16, 2012 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jermell Howard

      It's because they did not pray everyday and not believe that he was always there.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • CancunCasper

      What a freak you are! Complete idiot! You are what's wrong with the USA. small brain people like you.... So sad!

      December 16, 2012 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • nodoubtrocks

      If you are a Christian, you have God in your heart already. It's a matter of respect for children with different faith not to conform to one religion but instead remain secular. How would you like your child to practice Islam, Hinduism, etc. if they're of the Christian Faith and vice-versa? You can still think about God in your mind and heart but keep it to yourself during study time. You don't have your children worship God in the middle of shopping for groceries or in the middle of soccer practice. There is a time and place for everything. Save it for later or enroll your child in a private religious school.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cielo musco

      It is than not then. Grammar and god have left our schools.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
  11. feku

    Ok. l am trying to find out what are the reasons that can make these – otherwise non criminal kids – do these killings.
    it has to be something that they see, feel, experience.. that trigers it...
    don't know how and what type of law will change these incidents effectively?

    December 16, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • FactChecker

      No use looking for reasons. There is no reason that can make any sense.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:33 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Cadi

    Raise this school. Let the community come together and build a playground on the site to be enjoyed by children for generations. Include a peaceful memorial garden that has a fountain with 26 angels watching over the playground. Please fund this Mr. President and then give the children a new state of the art sustainable green school so they can learn in a healthy environment free of evil deeds they witnessed.

    December 16, 2012 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse |
  13. jon

    Arm the Faculty please. A man with a hatchet could do as much damage being as no one is allowed to carry weapons on school property. Arm the faculty and these incidents may stop, but people will at least be able to defend themselves and the children.

    December 16, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • NJD

      Arm the faculty? If it was a good idea, they would do it. But it's an incredibly stupid idea so they don't.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jim

      So you are the that person goes crazy one day and do the same thing. Smart move

      December 16, 2012 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chris

      Arm them with what? Hand guns? A shoot out between a man armed with multiple weapons, including an AR-15 against teachers with hand guns in a Kindergarden. Yea that would go over so well.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • marc L

      What will your response be when one of those armed people accidentally shoots someone?

      December 16, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • frontgate

      You are just plain crazy!

      December 16, 2012 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • wombattesting

      I completely disagree and think arming faculty is absolutely insane. I am a former teacher (32 years), and would have been firmly against while teaching. How about getting realistic...control firearms.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • KTJ

      Escalation, more guns, arming teachers... I don't see the wisdom in this. Teachers became educators and not police officers for a reason. These people should not have to be armed defenders of their students. Furthermore, this would do nothing to prevent future incidents. These individuals perpetrate these acts knowing they will be killed or kill themselves... how does arming teachers do anything to prevent future attacks?

      December 16, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Joey Isotta-Fraschini ©™

      "Arm the faculty?"
      Miss Brown would have shot me in the second grade.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeremy

      Arming the teachers should be at the TEACHERS option...not yours or the staff...

      It should be just airline pilots...if they are licensed to carry then they can carry while flying.

      No one is FORCING teachers to be ARMED...especially those too naive to understand how a firearm even works. However if one should CHOOSE to carry and already have a permit to DO SO then they should NOT be prohibited from carrying while on school grounds.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jeremy

      @ KTJ about the police...they are only there afterwards....
      the police are NOT required to protect YOU...only keep the peace. YOU are the only one RESPONSIBLE for YOUR safety....
      that is unless you would care to become a "sheep" under the care/protection of the "Shepard" and whatever freedom he allows you????

      December 16, 2012 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • marcus101

      Jon I actually tend to agree with you here with some prvisors. The faculty need to do an intense training course on the guns and know how to use them effectively. I agree that a shootout in a kindergarten should never happen , but if the faculty were armed and properly trained this madman could have been stopped reducing the casualties......why did he attack a school because he was a coward and it was a soft target. As soon as he heard the first responders he killed himself. This guy fired hundred of rounds most of which thank god missed as the body count would be a lot higher so he was obviously not a skilled marksman so a trained faculty member with a gun could have stopped him

      December 16, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • marcus101

      @KTJ, you saying it would be better to do nothing and let the madmad shoot. Yes arming the faculty will help prevent future incidents , the reason he attacked a school was he was a coward and a school was a soft target where he would get no resistance. If people knew the faculty were armed they would not think of schools as soft targets.

      December 16, 2012 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
  14. bartman

    such a tradegy

    December 16, 2012 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
  15. David Chamberlain

    “You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here’s why.

    It’s because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single victim o

    f Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he’ll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

    CNN’s article says that if the body count “holds up”, this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer’s face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer’s identity? None that I’ve seen yet. Because they don’t sell. So congratulations­, sensationalist media, you’ve just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

    You can help by forgetting you ever read this man’s name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem.”

    December 16, 2012 at 5:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • getaclue

      do NOT donate your money to mental health research.
      i repeat: Do NOTE Donate your money to mental health research.

      the only reason the mental health system is so messed up is because of the corruption of research by big pharma and universities – if they stop getting the money for research – the answers will be forthcoming ...

      corruption is as corruption does

      December 17, 2012 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
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