Supreme Court appears deeply divided over same-sex marriage
March 26th, 2013
12:40 PM ET

Supreme Court appears deeply divided over same-sex marriage

  • The Supreme Court is hearing two cases this week in the appeals to state and federal laws restricting same-sex marriage.
  • The court today first tackles an appeal of California's ban on same-sex marriage, known as Proposition 8.
  • Tomorrow, the justices will hear oral arguments over the federal Defense of Marriage Act.
  • Live updates below. Also, read the full story.

[Updated at 12:48 p.m. ET] We're signing off on this end for now - check out our main story for more detail and analysis as it comes today. We answer your questions here, and want to hear from you here.

Don't forget to join us again here tomorrow, when the Supreme Court hears the second round of debate on same-sex marriage: the Defense of Marriage Act.

[Updated at 12:31 p.m. ET] Director Rob Reiner, who watched today’s oral arguments, is a vocal critic against Proposition 8. Here's what he had to say after court adjourned:

“Today is a historic day for all those who believe in freedom and equality. After more than four years of working our case through victories at the federal District and Circuit courts, we finally had an opportunity today to present our arguments in support of marriage equality for gay and lesbian Americans before the highest court in the land. This case has always been about the love shared by two individuals and about the central promise from our nation’s founding that all men are created equal and are endowed with inalienable rights, including the pursuit of happiness.

[Updated at 12:11 p.m. ET] Andrew Pugno, general counsel for, tells reporters outside the court that he believes both sides of the argument have agreed that it is impossible to know with certainly how society would change by redefining "a fundamental institution such as marriage.

[Updated at 12:04 p.m. ET] “Today we feel we clearly presented the winning case for marriage,” says Andrew Pugno, general counsel for, who is speaking with reporters now.

[Updated at 12:01 p.m. ET] Charles Cooper, lead counsel defending Proposition 8, told reporters that he couldn't sum up his argument in a couple of sentences. "We believe Proposition 8 is constitutional," he said, making a brief statement.

[Updated at 11:48 a.m. ET] Kris Perry, a plaintiff in the Prop 8 case, just spoke, saying: "In this country as children, we learn that there's a founding principle, that all men and women are created equal. … Unfortunately with the passage of Proposition 8, we learned that there are group of people in California who are not being treated equally."

"We look forward to a day when prop 8 is officially eliminated and equality is restored to the state of California."

[Updated at 11:45 a.m. ET] Republican Ted Olson and Democrat David Boies, who joined forces to argue against Prop 8, are speaking outside the courthouse now. What's important from today, Olson said, is "the American people were listening to the argument. The other side, nobody really offered a defense."

"We're very gratified they listened, they heard, they asked hard questions, (but) there is no denying where the right is, and we hope the court (rules that way) in June."

[Updated at 11:43 a.m. ET] According to Toobin, there were a lot of questions along these lines from Justices Scalia and Alito: We don’t know the effects of same sex parenting on children, so why don’t we wait and let the states go experiment? Why do we, the Supreme Court, have to get involved in this process?

Toobin said Roberts also seemed sympathetic to these questions.

[Updated at 11:39 a.m. ET] The attorney general and the governor of California have refused to defend Prop 8. So the question, Toobin says, is "Who can defend the law? Who has the standing?" The answer to that question will be key to resolving the case.

Conservative Justices Scalia, Alito and Roberts were "very hostile of idea of the court imposing same sex marriage," according to Toobin. The four Democratic justices seemed favorably disposed.

Justice Kennedy seemed like he was in the middle, he said things that would "give comfort for both sides," Toobin says. Kennedy suggested the issue was brought prematurely before the court.

[Updated at 11:37 a.m. ET] The justices seemed very focused on how Prop 8 affects children, with Justice Kagan at some point suggesting that California have a law allowing same-sex marriage for people past child-bearing age, Toobin said.

Kagan said, according to Toobin: “I assure you if two 55 year old people, there aren’t a lot of children (coming from that marriage).”

[Updated at 11:34 a.m. ET] "This was a deeply divided Supreme Court, a court that seemed groping for answers," CNN senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said after watching the arguments. "Now I think its even harder to predict the result of this case after hearing this argument."

[Updated at 11:31 a.m. ET] Oral arguments have wrapped up, according to CNN Supreme Court producer Bill Mears. They went just a bit over schedule, lasting about one hour and 20 minutes.

[Updated at 11:23 a.m. ET] While we wait on word from the courthouse, consider this: A new CNN/ORC International Poll indicates that 53% of Americans support same-sex marriage. In the same survey, 57% of respondents said they had a family member or close friend who is gay or lesbian.

Here's a look at the issue, by the numbers.

[Updated at 11:06 a.m. ET] The same-sex marriage debate is a huge issue, and the lawyers inside were penciled in for an hour to make their cases. Doesn't sound like much time, but to be fair, the oral arguments regarding the Affordable Care Act (aka "Obamacare") last March lasted roughly two hours.

Tomorrow's DOMA arguments have been given one hour and 50 minutes. We'll see if they stay on schedule today.

[Updated at 10:46 a.m. ET] If all is going to plan, Jean Podrasky, a lesbian whose first cousin happens to be Chief Justice John Roberts, is inside the court hearing the arguments.

"I know that my cousin is a good man," she wrote in an op-ed this week. "I feel confident that John is wise enough to see that society is becoming more accepting of the humanity of same-sex couples and the simple truth that we deserve to be treated with dignity, respect, and equality under the law."

You might see a lot of red avatars with a “=” equal sign in your Twitter feed today. Supporters of marriage rights for same-sex couples are wearing red today to show their support – both on their persons and their social media accounts. That includes Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley.

[Updated at 10:39 a.m. ET] You can find a reminder of who’s who among the nine justices here.

Try clicking on each photo to learn more about the men and women who will decide the legal fate of same-sex marriage (for now anyway) – see where they were born and educated, their career highlights and their religion.

[Updated at 10:30 a.m. ET] Inside, we expect Republican Ted Olson and Democrat David Boies joining forces in pushing for legal recognition of same-sex marriage. Prominent Washington attorney Charles Cooper will lead the defense of Proposition 8, the California referendum against same-sex marriage.

Fun fact: Olson and Boies argued opposite sides of the landmark 2000 Bush v. Gore case, which decided that presidential election.

[Updated at 10:23 a.m. ET] The temperature is rising a bit and so is the volume. Thousands have amassed in front of the U.S. Supreme court as the morning warms up.

If everything is proceeding as scheduled, oral arguments should be getting started inside the courtroom.

[Updated at 10:11 a.m. ET] The atmosphere probably pretty somber inside the court, but outside the speakers are blaring with music and the occasional chant: "Gay, straight, black, white - marriage is a civil right!"

CNN contributors David Frum and LZ Granderson have both taken to the mic, keeping the crowd charged up.

"No agency of the government can do for anyone what loving spouses do for each other," Frum said. "Today your families gather before this house of law to claim the right to live as others do without fear."

"I did not come here to ask anybody permission to love. I did not come here to (seek ) approval," said Granderson. "… I am here because 14 times the Supreme Court (ruled that marriage is) a fundamental right, and gay and lesbian couples deserve their fundamental rights!”

"Same-sex couples are not here asking for a seat at the table because we've always been here," he added. "We're not here at the steps of Supreme Court to beg. ... I too sing, America."

[Updated at 10 a.m. ET] Nope, we don't have cameras in the courtroom, but the high court should be in session at this point. After a few minutes of routine business, oral arguments should get underway at about 10:15 a.m. In addition to Jeffrey Toobin, CNN has Correspondent Joe Johns and Supreme Court producer Bill Mears watching the arguments firsthand. Stay tuned here for developments.

[Updated at 9:50 a.m. ET] As the justices gather, the court of public opinion is already weighing in - certainly on Twitter. At 9:30 a.m. ET, five of the top U.S. trends were related to the hearing today. Though, this being Twitter, #ThoughtsInBed was also riding high.

Here’s what some people are saying:

And pics from our senior legal analyst:

[Updated at 9:43 a.m. ET] Today's arguments have sparked conversation beyond the steps of the Supreme Court. Supporters and opponents of same-sex marriage are capturing the moment on social media. Here's one from NOH8 Campaign, who support marriage equality:

Opponents of same-sex marriage have also shown up in droves in Washington, but the rallies have kept peaceful. Here's a tweet from Alliance Defending Freedom:

[Updated at 9:26 a.m. ET] Less than an hour away from the start of oral arguments and protests outside the Supreme Court are gaining momentum. Supporters of same-sex marriage and LGBT rights are holding a rally, celebrating the historic significance of today's events.

"We are all participants of American history today - let's get this party started!" two of the organizers shouted at a cheering audience.

The crowd is holding signs, saying, "Married with pride" and "Marriage is love, commitment and family."

"Condemn hatred, embrace marriage!" the crowd chanted.

Among the speakers is retired Lt. Col. Linda Campbell, a 25-year military veteran, who was allowed to bury her partner, Nancy Lynchild, at Willamette National Cemetery. It is believed to be the first case of its kind, the same-sex spouse of a member of the military to be buried in a national cemetery.

"I know the spirit of my spouse Nancy is smiling on us today," Campbell said today.

[Updated at 8:34 a.m. ET] Looks like Justice Kennedy will definitely be the one to watch today.

"What am I looking to? Justice Kennedy in his questioning," said California Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom who, as San Francisco mayor in 2004, stoked controversy by ordering City Hall to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

He told CNN's "Starting Point" this morning that Kennedy would be key because he wrote the majority opinion in the 1996 case of Romer V. Evans in Colorado. The case dealt with Amendment 2, a Colorado initiative that banned state government from passing laws prohibiting discrimination against the LGBT community. The Supreme Court struck down the law in a 6-3 vote.

[Updated at 8:15 a.m. ET] Protesters are braving temperatures in 30s outside the high court this morning to make their stand in the same-sex marriage debate. Rainbow flags are flapping next to American ones as demonstrators bundled in thick coats and scarves hold up banners reading "The nation is ready for Marriage Equality" and "Faith Alliance to preserve the sanctity of marriage as defined by God."

[Updated at 7:55 a.m. ET] Today's oral arguments will focus on Proposition 8, a ballot initiative that was approved by California voters in a 52-48% vote in November 2008. The vote happened less than six months after the state Supreme Court ruled marriage was a fundamental right that must be extended to same-sex couples.

Its approval immediately ended same-sex marriages in the state, but opponents of the measure challenged it in court and have succeeded in convincing federal judges at the district and appellate levels to find the ban unconstitutional.

The Supreme Court will open its doors to the public and the media at 8 a.m. ET, two hours before oral arguments are scheduled to start.

[Updated at 7:23 a.m. ET] The justice to keep an eye on is Anthony Kennedy, who may be the crucial fifth vote on either side, says CNN's senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin.

"I will be listening to what Justice Anthony Kennedy says," Toobin said about the oral arguments. The four Democratic appointees - Justices Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagan - will likely all vote for marriage equality.

"The most likely person to give the fifth vote is Anthony Kennedy," Toobin said.

Toobin likened the same-sex marriage argument to Loving v. Virginia, a landmark civil rights decision by the Supreme Court in 1967 that deemed laws prohibiting interracial marriages unconstitutional.

[Posted at 7:11 a.m. ET] Supreme Court justices this morning will launch an epic dialogue when they hear oral arguments in the first of two appeals to state and federal laws restricting same-sex marriage.

The first round today will deal with an appeal of California's Proposition 8, which defines marriage as between a man and a woman. The second round, scheduled for tomorrow, will tackle the 1996 federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) and a constitutional appeal over same-sex marriage and "equal protection."

The arguments will start at 10 a.m. ET today, but don't expect a decision until at least June.

soundoff (585 Responses)
  1. vknyvz

    (this is not a religious view, so don't try to reply with a nonsense comment, it is simply a fact)

    Our Politicians are smart they will know what to do...

    It was Adam -> Eve, if you all remember

    Adam -> Micheal
    Eve -> Michelle

    For the millionth of time, this is not a question of who you love, love whoever you want, but you can't ask it to be legal, and if adopting children ever be legal for those couples, god we're going to have so many dysfunctional families by 2050.


    March 26, 2013 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Frank

      Jesus sucks and the Christians who invaded and conquered Europe during the dark ages were a bunch of terrorists.

      March 26, 2013 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      It doesn't matter if it is a religious view or not. Religion doesn't enter in to it.
      This is a civil rights issue. Whether you agree personally or not doesn't enter the equation.

      March 26, 2013 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
    • James Poster

      Have you not noticed how many dysfunctional familes we already have? And leave your fallacious god out of our secular nation's laws. This is god;

      God created Adam. He then realized that Adam needed an Eve. Since he is perfect and all-knowing, it's odd he didn't know this to begin with. But he took Adam's rib, which means that men have 1 fewer rib than God originally deemed ideal. He used it to make Eve. Since men and women have the same number of ribs, that means that women also lack the ideal number of ribs. He then denied them wisdom and left them in the garden unattended with the wise and evil Lucifer. He then acted all surpised when Lucifer duped them, like he isn't really all-knowing and had no idea what would happen with his little bout of parental negligence, and punishes them and all of their descendants who had nothing to do with it. God then decided to play favorites with Cain and Abel. Playing favorites with your children is never a good idea, and it led to Cain slaying his brother. I'd say that God gave us a real good start to dysfunctional families.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
    • maria

      No god help you! A HUMAN RIGHT IS A HUMAN RIGHT. We can ask it to be legal?

      March 26, 2013 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • AthensGuy

      adam and eve: mith
      adam and eve: one of the most famous $ex toys vendors of the 1990s

      March 26, 2013 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • AthensGuy

      myth, sorry

      March 26, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • cedar rapids

      '(this is not a religious view, so don't try to reply with a nonsense comment, it is simply a fact)
      It was Adam -> Eve, if you all remember'

      er, yeah, as soon as you say it was Adam and Eve, then it becomes a religious view.

      March 26, 2013 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • sam stone

      it's not a religious view, but you end it with "god help us"/


      March 26, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Tommy

    I am sorry, but to have that guy in the red outfit representing this story isnt right. Thats what poeple 'think' we look like. Those are few and far between. We are business men and women too and not overly 'queeny' We are in all sociaties acting just like everyone else. Not overly feminine as this guy is showing.

    March 26, 2013 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
    • PEACE

      Thank you, Tommy...I made a similar comment – glad CNN seemed to be listening and took the picture down 🙂

      March 26, 2013 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
    • MikeFrye

      Where's your Gay Pride?

      March 26, 2013 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
    • vknyvz

      haha I am with you on that @MikeFrye yea @PEACE where is your pride? god he/it was disgusting...

      March 26, 2013 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • Andysue28

      You guys do realize how many terrible people are straight right? Why isn't Ted Bundy the main picture when a straight marriage article is written? Aren't you proud to be straight?

      March 26, 2013 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
    • anchorite

      I know that, too, but gay pride parades put the flamboyant costumed folks out in front. But it doesn't matter, it's none of anyone's d- business what people look like or how they conduct themselves. I wish I didn't have to see couples arguing in public, but too bad for me.

      March 26, 2013 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Canadian

    Take a good, long look at the FRUIT at the top of this article. He's a good example of the gay community

    How often do you see straight people going to Capitol Hill, the Supreme Court, etc wearing thongs?

    March 26, 2013 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Mr Dalloway

      And who cares about Canada, no one?

      March 26, 2013 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Amber

      Are you really that nieve and stupid to believe that one dude represents a whole community of people? Wake up and stop stereotyping. I can't believe there are so many ignorant people in this world and on this thread

      March 26, 2013 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      Gay marriage is legal in Canada. As a Canadian, you should know this. Why are you commenting?

      March 26, 2013 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Mark

      I've seen Jesus Freaks dressed as Jesus shaking and speaking in tongues in protest of abortion, or women's rights. I'll take a thong over that any day. I'll take someone protesting for freedom naked over those fighting for oppression in formal wear any day.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Mr Dalloway

      And also look at phat boys.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
  4. scott

    our "leaders" want us to think that this is our priority. right .pay no mind to what's happening in cypress.

    March 26, 2013 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Matt

      Cyprus*.. clearly you're informed!

      March 26, 2013 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  5. Mike

    I'm confused why all the bible thumpers ty and force their god on me? You can believe in your god but don't force me to. Don't you have Good Friday and Easter to be prepping for instead of following a live blog on the cuts decision?

    March 26, 2013 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Amber


      March 26, 2013 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
    • Mr Dalloway

      Seems to me they all failed civics class.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Zandigra

      1. Not all of those opposed to SSM are coming at it from a religious perspective.
      2. Not all religious people are opposed to SSM

      Fighting prejudice with stereotyping, as you seem to be doing, is not the solution.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  6. Rob

    The flamboyant fishnet devil-guy in the picture is perfect

    March 26, 2013 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
  7. phat boy

    This is a slippery slope. If this is passed, the next case will be the right for people to marry animals.

    March 26, 2013 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
    • palintwit

      Most teabaggers south of the Mason Dixon line already do that.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
    • JohnNY

      You're right about that, they already justify their actions because animals do it, taking that next step shouldn't be much of a jump.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
    • LOL

      Good! Me and my goat have been waiting years to be married!

      March 26, 2013 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • Me

      Like it has in Washingron, or Massachusetts, or any other state with gay marriage already. Oh wait... it hasn't, because animals aren't capable of legal consent like human adults are.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      Me, thank you...beat me to it. There's one in every crowd.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Seyedibar

      People once used that same excuse to try and ban interracial marriage.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
    • skylarmadison

      It is a sad day when you have to explain what consent means. Animals cannot consent, neither can children, cars, trees, etc.

      PS. Slippery slope is the definition of an illogical argument. I love to see someone try to employ it as a form of logic. Way to go!

      March 26, 2013 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • SomethingWicked

      I think throwing up the idea of animal marriage is just rhetoric and is taking things to an extreme. What I do believe in all sincerity is that any argument that can be made for Gay marriage can also be made for the legalization of Polygamy. Lets look at the arguments.
      Consenting adults who love each other, check. Protected by Liberty and Equality clause, check. Couples should have rights concerning partners finances and medical care etc. check. In addition polygamist can claim that the possibility of having both a working spouse and a stay at home spouse can be beneficial financially and beneficial for children. I’m neither pro or anti Gay or Polygamy, frankly I think there is such a small segment of the population that this affects that it is rather insignificant. However, I would like to hear from someone that is Pro Gay marriage explain to me on what grounds they would object to Polygamy (if they do)

      March 26, 2013 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • GT

      Not understanding the phrase "consenting adult" makes it hard to believe one understands the concept of "assault".

      April 1, 2013 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Man of Faith

    The Almighty GOD has the power and the final answer to say NO to gay marriage and for that you will burn in HELL if you think otherwise. If you are gay and feel you have a right to your voice, well so do people of religion, gay people always want to challenge everything that has to do with there equality on earth accept what is right do you even know what that is.

    March 26, 2013 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Another Man of Faith

      Cool story bro, needs more dragons.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Baby Eater

      There's no God, pink unicorns, tooth fairy, or santa claus, sorry to tell you. What matters here is what you have freedom to do, not what bronze age deity you believe in.

      Now put on your big boy pants and deal with it.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
    • James

      "The Almighty GOD has the power and the final answer to say NO to gay marriage and for that you will burn in HELL if you think otherwise."

      The scriptures actually say nothing about homosexuality as a psychosexual orientation. Our understandings of sexual orientation are distinctly modern ones that were not present in the minds of Scripture writers. A few passages of Scripture (seven at the most) object to certain types of same-sex expressions or acts. The particular acts in question, however, are sexual expressions which are exploitative, oppressive, commercialized, or offensive to ancient purity rituals. There is no Scriptural guidance for same-sex relationships which are loving and mutually respecting. Guidelines for these relationships should come from the same general Scriptural norms that apply to heterosexual relationships.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      This is a reply to JAMES........the bible DOES say that "man shal not lay with man".......I cannot remember the exact scripture but it is in the story of Abraham".....please do your research before making comments about a book you obviously dont know anything about

      March 26, 2013 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Oh Boy

      I bet you're one of those protestants that refuses to believe that your religion came from catholicism aren't you? Do you even know what a cathar is? It never ceases to amaze me how people (especially in this country) who continuously subscribe to a religious docterine that doesn't include other, generally know diddly squat about their religion or where it came from, just that they are free to do that most basic of human instincts; PERSECUTE. I believe hell is a state of being where you are without the teachings of Christ – there is no love or compassion in your heart for your fellow man, regardsless of whether or not you agree with any of aspect of your life; primarily because it's not your job to agree with anything that has to do with them – it's your job to love them no matter what. THAT is the true message of Christ

      March 26, 2013 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • cedar rapids

      'The Almighty GOD has the power and the final answer to say NO to gay marriage and for that you will burn in HELL'

      sounds like your god has some anger issues he needs to work out.

      March 26, 2013 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
  9. FreeThinker

    Gay marriage will have no negative impact what so ever on our society. In fact the economic impact of additional revenue from gay marriages will be helpful.

    March 26, 2013 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
  10. SAM

    let honest law abiding citizens live their lives as they see fit.

    March 26, 2013 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
  11. Robb

    I could care less who marries, lets get that straight. But I as I peruse the Bill of Rights, there is nothing making marriage a right. So how in the world can it be construed as such. marriage is a state right always has been. If the SCOTUS strikes California's popular sovereignty (a very liberal state) then we have lost all hope for government and voting. I love how people love votes and ballots when they go their way, and sue when they dont!

    March 26, 2013 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
    • banasy©

      The problem with prop 8 is that they took away the rights that was formerly granted. And then decared all of the legal gay marriages null and void.
      Kind of like rescinding Loving v Virginia. Would that be a good idea?

      March 26, 2013 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
    • rkdres

      Well said, I agree 100%

      March 26, 2013 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
    • skylarmadison

      Marriage is absolutely a civil right. The Consitution does not give you "rights." Where is your "right" to home ownership? Where is your "right" to have children, own a dog, own a car, have a job, mow your lawn, brush your teeth, etc.?

      Where is your "right" to marry?

      The 14th Amendment. The Constution PROTECTS rights. You are welcome.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
  12. lee

    suck it haters! keep your god to yourself this is civil marriage we want don't care what your churches do.

    March 26, 2013 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  13. Jocho Johnson

    It's like a gay holiday today, well good for the gays, now that they're getting marriage can we stop with these gay parades

    March 26, 2013 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
  14. Hank

    Jesus help us

    March 26, 2013 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Mark

      He died 2000 years ago. I know you think he became a zombie and rose from the dead. This is why you eat his flesh and drink his blood in your ceremonies, but he really isn't a zombie and can't help you oppress others anymore.

      March 26, 2013 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
  15. Tony

    States should stop marriage licensing altogether. Why does any kind of couple entering into a private arrangement need a permission slip from the government?

    March 26, 2013 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
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