Blog: Navy looking to 'see what red flags, if any, were missed'
U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey prepare to lay a wreath at the U.S. Navy Memorial plaza on Tuesday to honor the victims of Monday's Washington Navy Yard shootings.
September 17th, 2013
06:13 PM ET

Blog: Navy looking to 'see what red flags, if any, were missed'

  • 12 people were killed and at least eight were injured in shooting at Washington Navy Yard, authorities say
  • The shooter, Aaron Alexis, 34, was killed in confrontation with security
  • Alexis was information-technology contractor and former full-time Navy reservist who lived in Texas
  • Live updates below. Also, read the full story and a profile of Alexis.

[Updated 8:13 p.m. ET] Alexis entered Building 197 at Washington's Navy Yard with a small bag that is believed to contain a disassembled shotgun he used in the mass shooting, a federal law enforcement official says. Surveillance video shows Alexis ducking into a bathroom with the bag and leaving it with a shotgun, according to the source.

Alexis had 00 buckshot shells, each of which are packed with a dozen pellets and are capable of causing tremendous damage, the same law enforcement official says.

[Updated 8:08 p.m. ET] Alexis contacted two Veterans Affairs hospitals in and around Washington recently and got treated for sleep-related issues, a law enforcement source says. A second law enforcement source tells CNN that, as far as investigators know now, Alexis sought help for insomnia. But another source said Alexis asked for help because he was "having problems sleeping" and "hearing voices."

[Updated 8:05 p.m. ET] Rep. Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, tells CNN that the eight instances of misconduct that Alexis had while in the Navy "were kind of swept under the rug." “There is a tendency to not want to deal with a problem," McCaul says. "It is real easy to just pass the buck along to another military base or, in this instance, to a defense contractor.”

[Updated 8:03 p.m. ET] Navy officers knew about an incident in which Alexis was arrested for shooting the tires of a car - in what he later told detectives was an anger-fueled "blackout" - but admitted him to the Navy and gave him secret security clearance in 2007 anyway, a senior Naval officer told CNN.

"It appears as if investigators were aware of the incident, interviewed him and were satisfied that it did not preclude granting the clearance," the officer said.

[Updated 7:56 p.m. ET] The Experts, the contracting firm for which Alexis worked for about six months over the past year, said it performed two background checks on him and confirmed twice with the Defense Department that Alexis had a secret security clearance. "The latest background check and security clearance confirmation were in late June of 2013 and revealed no issues other than one minor traffic violation," the company says in a statement.

[Updated 7:36 p.m. ET] Alexis paid $419 to buy a shotgun at Sharpshooters Small Arms Range, said the store's lawyer,  J. Michael Slocum. Slocum also said that he made the purchase on Saturday afternoon - and not Sunday, as he had earlier told CNN.

[Original post at 4:14 p.m. ET] Alexis bought a shotgun and about 24 shells on Sunday - the day before the shooting - from the Sharpshooters Small Arms Range in northern Virginia, the store's attorney, J. Michael Slocum, said.

Before buying the Remington 870 shotgun and the ammunition, he used a store rifle at a practice range, and he was at the store for at least a couple hours, Slocum said.

Video of Alexis at the store has been given to the FBI, according to Slocum.

[Updated 7:27 p.m. ET] Aaron Alexis' dark blue rented Toyota Prius was towed Tuesday from the Washington hotel where he'd been staying, a law enforcement source says.

[Updated 6:29 p.m. ET] Navy spokesman John Kirby says that authorities are looking to "see what red flags, if any, were missed" ahead of Aaron Alexis's mass shooting at Washington's Navy Yard.  Alexis got security clearance in 2007, and it was still valid when he left the Navy in 2011, according to Kirby.

As to Alexis's issues while in the service - including eight "relatively minor" instances of misconduct - the Navy spokesman said, “He wasn’t a stellar sailor, we know that.”

[Updated 6:17 p.m. ET]   Washington, D.C., police Officer Scott Williams shot and killed Aaron Alexis, ending the latter's rampage at the historic Navy Yard, Mayor Vincent Gray told CNN.  Williams is in good spirits after undergoing surgery tied to his being shot in the leg, according to Gray.

[Updated 6:12 p.m. ET] The Washington Navy Yard will be opened Wednesday to "essential" personnel only, says base spokesman Ed Zeigler. "Access to Building 197 is still prohibited," he added, referring to the building where the shooting occurred.

[Updated 4:04 p.m. ET] Police in Newport, Rhode Island, say Alexis contacted them while he was staying there in August, complaining that he was hearing voices and was worried that three people were harassing him, according to CNN's Deborah Feyerick.

Newport police say they contacted the Newport naval base in August about their encounter with Alexis, who was working there as an information-technology contractor.

Alexis told Newport police that during a flight from Virginia to Rhode Island, he got into a “verbal altercation” with someone, Newport Police Lt. William Fitzgerald said.

Fitzgerald says Alexis told police “he was a naval contractor who travels often.” He explained that during a flight from Virginia to Rhode Island, he got into a “verbal altercation” with an individual. Alexis told police he believed that the “individual had sent three people to follow him and to talk, keep him awake and send vibrations into his body," Fitzgerald said.

According to a police report, Alexis said he first heard the people talking to him through a wall at a Middletown hotel where he was staying. He packed up and went to an unidentified hotel on the naval base where he heard the same voices talking to him, so he moved to a third hotel.

According to Fitzgerald, Alexis heard the people “speaking to him through the floor and then ceiling.“ Alexis said the individuals were “using a microwave machine to send vibrations through the ceiling, penetrating his body so he could not speak.”

Fitzgerald said Alexis would not elaborate or tell police what his alleged harassers were saying, but he told police “he never felt anything like this and felt these individuals would harm him.”

Earlier Tuesday, a source with direct knowledge of the investigation told Feyerick that Alexis exhibited signs of mental problems in recent months and tried to get help at a Veterans Affairs facility in Rhode Island.

[Updated 3:27 p.m. ET] Alexis bought a shotgun from Sharpshooters Small Arms Range in the last few weeks, an attorney for the store said, according to CNN's Chris Lawrence.

The attorney, J. Michael Slocum, said Alexis had a valid driver's license, and the gun shop "did the full required background check, the same that's done when someone buys a weapon of any sort." Slocum indicated there was nothing in the background check to stop the sale to Alexis.

Slocum also said the FBI visited the store once since Monday's shooting, and that the store is cooperating with the investigation.

The FBI has said the Alexis used a shotgun in the shooting.

[Updated 2:28 p.m. ET] The news conference is over. Some more highlights from D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier: She said that within seven minutes of the first emergency call, police had at least two units inside the building where the shooting was happening.

The first unit arrived at the yard itself within two minutes of the call. It took police a while to determine which building was the shooting site, because callers were giving different building numbers, she said.

Security personnel from several agencies had "multiple engagements" with Alexis before the final shots were fired, she said.

[Updated 2:23 p.m. ET] More from the news conference: D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier elaborated on why she thinks the officer who was shot in both legs will make a full recovery, when there had been questions Monday of whether he would walk again.

"We have a very good prognosis from the doctors," Lanier said. She said that because of his personality, she believes that he will eventually be "outrunning all of us."

[Updated 2:15 p.m. ET] More from the news conference: The Washington police officer who was shot in both legs Monday is doing well, D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier said. He had surgery Monday.

“We expect he will make a full recovery,” Lanier said.

Earlier, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported that physicians were expected to begin determining Tuesday whether the officer would be able to keep the limbs.

Also, Lanier said at the news conference that there's "no doubt in my mind" that the officers responding to the shooting "saved numerous lives."

[Updated 2:11 p.m. ET] More from the news conference: Alexis arrived in the Washington area on or about August 25, staying in hotels, said Valerie Parlave, assistant director in charge of the Washington FBI field office.

He most recently stayed at a Residence Inn in southwestern Washington, D.C., beginning around September 7, she said. Anyone who contacted him during that time should contact the FBI, she said.

[Updated 2:08 p.m. ET] FBI and other officials have begun a news conference in Washington, updating reporters on the investigation.

Alexis entered the yard's building 197 - where the shooting took place - with a shotgun, and investigators believe he obtained a handgun inside the building after he started shooting, Valerie Parlave, assistant director in charge of the Washington FBI field office, said moments ago at a news conference. This confirms what federal law enforcement sources said earlier.

[Updated 2:01 p.m. ET] U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is ordering a worldwide review of physical security measures at all U.S. military installations in the wake of Monday's shooting, a senior Pentagon official said Tuesday, according to CNN's Barbara Starr.

Hagel will order the military to look at all existing security measures to see if they are sufficient and to determine what other measures may be needed, the official said.

At the same time, the Pentagon is still trying to determine what it needs to do to begin a parallel review of security clearances and access standards for contractors and other employees, according to a Defense Department official. Some elements of clearance procedures are handled by other parts of the government so coordination will be required, but the official said it’s expected some review of that element will also take place.

This follow an earlier confirmation from the Navy that it was beginning a similar physical security review at all of its installations.

[Updated 1:13 p.m. ET] Alexis was “having problems sleeping” and was “hearing voices,” a source with direct knowledge of the investigation said, according to CNN's Deborah Feyerick. The source said Alexis exhibited signs of mental problems in recent months and tried to get help at a Veterans Affairs facility in Rhode Island. He had been working in Newport, Rhode Island, as an information-technology contractor in August.

The source also said that the 9/11 attacks triggered Alexis to leave his home in New York City. Alexis could not deal with the attack, left New York and essentially became a wanderer going from place to place – San Diego, Texas, and overseas, the source said.

His father told Seattle police in 2004 - after Alexis was arrested there - that his son was suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder after taking part in 9/11 rescue efforts, according to police records.

Earlier Tuesday, law enforcement sources told CNN that Alexis recently made contact with two Veterans Administration hospitals for apparent psychological issues.

[Updated 12:44 p.m. ET] A gun store in northern Virginia, Sharpshooters Small Arms Range in Lorton, released a statement in response to inquiries about Alexis. For context: An FBI source with firsthand knowledge of the investigation told CNN that one of the weapons Alexis is accused of using was purchased recently at a northern Virginia store. The Sharpshooters statement, shown below, does not affirm that it sold Alexis the gun.

"Sharpshooters Small Arms Range has been and continues to fully cooperate with law enforcement authorities in their investigation of the events at the Washington Navy Yard," Sharpshooters said. "In light of the many questions surrounding the event, it is not appropriate to provide any comment at this time, except to affirm that Sharpshooters fully complies with all requirements to conduct background checks on all potential purchasers as required by law, and to further affirm that all purchasers are required to comply with all laws concerning allowed purchases."

[Updated 12:06 p.m. ET] The Navy began proceedings in 2010 to give Alexis a "general discharge" from the Navy Reserve because of military and civilian disciplinary issues, but eventually gave him an honorable discharge in January 2011 because of a lack of evidence supporting the sterner measure, a U.S. defense official told CNN's Barbara Starr.

The disciplinary issues include at least eight instances of misconduct while on duty, the official said.

The attempt to give him a general discharge began after the Navy learned of his 2008 arrest in Georgia (on suspicion of disorderly conduct) and his 2010 arrest in Texas (over an allegation that he fired a gun through the ceiling of his apartment), the official said.

Alexis was a full-time Navy reservist from mid-2007 to January 2011.

[Updated 11:53 a.m. ET] We now have all the slain victims' names. The latest five to be released by Washington police are:

- Arthur Daniels, 51, of Washington, D.C.
- Mary Francis Knight, 51, of Reston, Virginia
- Gerald L. Read, 58, of Alexandria, Virginia
- Martin Bodrog, 54, of Annandale, Virginia
- Richard Michael Ridgell, 52, of Westminster, Maryland

On Monday night, Washington police released the first seven names:

- Michael Arnold, 59, of Lorton, Virginia
- Sylvia Frasier, 53, of Waldorf, Maryland
- Kathy Gaarde, 62, of Woodbridge, Virginia
- John Roger Johnson, 73, of Derwood, Maryland
- Frank Kohler, 50, of Tall Timbers, Maryland
- Kenneth Bernard Proctor, 46, of Waldorf, Maryland
- Vishnu Schalchendia Pandit, 61, of North Potomac, Maryland

[Updated 11:46 a.m. ET] It's back to baseball on Tuesday for the Washington Nationals, who postponed a Monday game as the organization allowed the Navy to use one of their parking lots as a site where Navy Yard evacuees could reunite with their loved ones.

The Nationals will wear their "Patriotic Blue" jerseys in the first game of a double-header with the visiting Atlanta Braves, the team said. The first game, to start at 1:05 p.m., is the make-up for Monday's postponement.

The Navy Yard is just blocks from Nationals Park.

[Updated 11:30 a.m. ET] Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus on Tuesday will "order reviews of all physical security at all Navy and Marine Corps installations," a U.S. Navy official told CNN's Barbara Starr.

"The first will be a quick look to ensure all physical security requirements are being met. The second will be a deeper review to ensure the right physical and personal security requirements are in place," the official said.

Earlier, U.S. Rep. Mike Turner, an Ohio Republican and a member of the Armed Forces Committee, said he believed cost-cutting compromised security at the yard, and he wants a congressional briefing from the Pentagon inspector general on a Navy security audit that he says was released after Monday's shooting.

"It is my understanding that the IG report indicates the Navy may have implemented an unproven system in order to cut costs," Turner said. "I also learned that potentially numerous felons may have been able to gain restricted access to several military installations across the country due to insufficient background checks, increasing the risk to our military personnel and civilian employees."

[Updated 11:21 a.m. ET] Arrests don't automatically prevent people from getting security clearance, says Anita Gorecki-Robbins, a military justice lawyer.

Alexis, who had been arrested a few times since 2004, received Department of Defense security clearance so that he could work for The Experts, a subcontractor of HP Enterprise Services that was contracted to "refresh equipment used on the Navy Marine Corps Intranet network," according to a statement released by his employer.

Gorecki-Robbins told CNN's Chris Cuomo and Ashleigh Banfield that the Defense Department can decide to give security clearances to people who have been arrested. In Alexis' case, either the arrests weren't picked up in screening, or "someone did see (the arrests) and decided to give it to him anyway."

[Updated 10:19 a.m. ET] A former Army attorney says the shooting should raise questions about whether military installations should randomly check vehicles.

Alexis entered the Navy Yard because he had a valid military-issued ID and was assigned to work there as a contractor. Greg Rinckey, a former attorney in the Army judge advocate general's office, told CNN's John Berman that the shooting could boost arguments for random vehicle checks, even for people with valid credentials.

Authorities have recovered three weapons from the scene of the mass shooting, including a shotgun that investigators believe Alexis brought into the compound, federal law enforcement sources with detailed knowledge of the investigation told CNN on Tuesday. The other two weapons - handguns - may have been taken from guards, the sources say.

[Updated 10:09 a.m. ET] To honor the shooting victims, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Martin Dempsey have just placed a wreath near the "The Lone Sailor" statue at Washington's U.S. Navy Memorial plaza.

Other federal officials are marking the shooting, too. Nearly 10 minutes ago, the U.S. Senate observed some moments of silence.

[Updated 9:59 a.m. ET] If you're wondering how Alexis could have been honorably discharged from the Navy Reserve in 2011 after a pattern of misconduct, a former Army attorney might have an answer.

Greg Rinckey, a former attorney in the Army judge advocate general's office, told CNN's John Berman that a pattern of misconduct doesn't necessarily result in an other-than-honorable discharge - but an honorable discharge might not be Alexis' full story, either.

“Most people with patterns of misconduct are discharged usually with an other-than-honorable discharge or a general discharge," Rinckey, of Albany, New York, said Tuesday morning. "I think we need to dig a little bit further into this to see if it was a general-under-honorable-conditions discharge or an honorable discharge.”

Alexis, who served as a full-time Navy reservist from 2007 to January 2011, was honorably discharged after a "pattern of misconduct," a U.S. defense official with knowledge of the investigation told CNN earlier on condition of anonymity. The official did not detail the misconduct.

[Updated 9:17 a.m. ET] Of the eight injured survivors, three were shot - and those three were doing better today at MedStar Washington Hospital Center. A Washington policeman is in fair condition, a female civilian is in fair condition and another female civilian is in good condition.

The police officer was shot in his legs. As of Monday night, medical personnel had yet to determine whether he would be able to keep the limbs, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported.

[Updated 9:02 a.m. ET] Alexis, the dead gunman, recently made contact with two Veterans Administration hospitals for apparent psychological issues, law enforcement sources said Tuesday.

[Updated 8:57 a.m. ET] Alexis was arrested in August 2008 on a charge of disorderly conduct in DeKalb County, Georgia, county police said Tuesday.

This is in addition to at least two other arrests, dating back to at least 2004 when he was arrested in Seattle. In that incident, he was accused of shooting out the tires of a man's truck in an anger-fueled "blackout," according to a Seattle Police Department report.

In 2010, Alexis was arrested by Fort Worth, Texas, police but never charged over an allegation that he fired a gun through the ceiling of his apartment. According to records, he told police he accidentally fired it while cleaning it.

[Updated 8:55 a.m. ET] Authorities have recovered three weapons from the scene of the shooting, federal law enforcement sources said. Investigators believe Alexis brought a shotgun into the compound and may have taken two handguns from guards, the sources said.

Initial reports said Alexis used an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle during the attack, but by Tuesday, law enforcement sources with knowledge of the investigation said that was not the case.

It is believed that Alexis had rented an AR-15, but returned it before Monday's shooting, the officials said. Investigators have recovered three weapons from the scene, including a shotgun that Alexis is believed to have brought into the compound. The other two weapons - handguns - the sources say, may have been taken from guards.

soundoff (126 Responses)
  1. chrissy

    Umm Dr.K2 you've not heard of homegrown terrorists? We have had many so i would be very surprised if you hadn't!

    September 17, 2013 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
  2. chrissy

    Good afternoon @ saywhat. Im also surprised that televised national news has stated repeatedly since yesterday evening, that a 13th person died in the hospital yet it hasn't been updated here.

    September 17, 2013 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Iconoclast

      Chrissy, 12 victims plus the shooter = 13.

      September 17, 2013 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
  3. chrissy

    @ Paul Kersey, he arrived WITH a gun, which he used to shoot the officer AND then took THEIR guns to shoot the other victims.

    September 17, 2013 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paul Kersey

      a stolen double barreled shotgun – again this case only illustrates the uselessness of the proposed "gun control" laws – start with the mentally ill and the criminals, you wont have to go farther.

      September 17, 2013 at 12:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • Observer

      The mentally ill? You mean those that might turn up with background checks? Not only for gun worshippers, but for security clearances?
      Nobody is trying to take away your guns, cowboy. WLP will make sure that there are plenty available for your bunker.

      September 17, 2013 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Habberdash

      That's a logically sound point, Paul. Since people can break laws, what's the point of even having them?

      September 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paul Kersey

      same for all laws; to provide the illusion of safety.

      Lock up bad guys, punish criminals, treat the ill – dont sacrifice birth rights because politicians and lobbyists have an agenda

      September 17, 2013 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • cwiz

      @Habberdash: we could make a law that requires everyone to stay inside a box their whole life and we'd never have any crime. The point is that in a modern government we attempt to find a balance between liberty and justice. We have to negotiate these things until we find a happy medium. With regard to gun control, the lunatics represent an extremely small portion of the population. Even the victims per year represent an extremely small fraction of society. That is not meant to downplay the loss of life, but it is not fair to those who use their liberties within the context of the law to be punished for the abuse of the very few. I think that was his point.

      September 17, 2013 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
  4. JOHN R

    What I find interesting is that so much was made about this shooting involving an AR-15 when it turns out not to be the case, how much of an effort will be made to correct that obvious error.

    September 17, 2013 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
  5. conoclast

    Ah, "American Exceptionalism" on full display once again. Tell us again in what ways we're "exceptional', eh Mr. Kerry? Exceptionally overworked & underpaid, perhaps? How about exceptionally depressed? Or (best) exceptionally unable to think rationally, thanks to our so-called education system? Yeah Kerry, we're exceptional all right!

    September 17, 2013 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • sly

      Us Americans do value our nation, so foreigners like you can visit and enjoy our strengths.

      As with your own country, our country America is not perfect, and yes, in 2013 America did report at least 1 crime.

      Perhaps in the future America will become perfect, with no theft, burglary, jaywalking or murder. We're working on it.

      Does your country have any problems, or is it perfect? Please let us know, because perhaps many Americans would like to leave America and move to your nation.

      September 17, 2013 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Iconoclast

      What does this have to do with this tragedy? Oh, yeah, nothing.
      Since you are enamoured with
      Putin, move there. Otherwise, come up with a solution or shut up.

      September 17, 2013 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
  6. jv morkal

    You can't convince me that this man, Alexis, wasn't psychologically programmed to do this thing. I have been watching the scene for a long, long time. I can assure you that men like, the Boston Strangler, the Hillside Slayer, and others, were psychologically programmed and purposely set loose on the American People, by Congressional Mandate, to do just what they did. That's what they do to psychologically vulnerable Americans. I know, I've been there. This whole story was intentionally contrived to create an unfavorable public image and influence popular opinion. Clearly, the Gun Control Advocates were losing the argument. Now, who knows? I would demand background checks of ever psychologically clinician and doctor who handled Alexis. Find out their political views, what books they've read, who do they admire, just who do they associate with, whether they hold duel citizenship, what laws would they create if given the opportunity, anything that might shed some light on just who his handlers are. As far as I'm concerned, the only new legislation we need on the subject is legislation outlawing the psychological programming of psych patients. jv morkal

    September 17, 2013 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • sly

      Yes morkal, obviously this entire thing was contrived, just like the Boston Marathon bombings, OK City, the Wacko from Waco and 9/11.

      In fact, none of those events even happened. Neither did the 2010 World Series, because unbeknownest to all of us, both teams unfortunately perished in a boating accident.

      But what you are missing is that this is a GOOD thing. These secret plots only help make America stronger.

      Support all these conspiracies – they are good!

      (Also, WWII was a hoax – never happened. Especially Pearl Harbor. Who the heck thinks airplanes could fly across the Pacific ocean! Ha ha ha – now that has to be the silliest conspiracy hoax ever!).

      September 17, 2013 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eyeroll

      I have heard many conspiracy theories, but this takes the prize in paranoia.

      September 17, 2013 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Hamsta

    Welcome to Communist News Network, where you are censored for being against liberal pinko prog commie propoganda!!!!!!!!!!

    September 17, 2013 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eyeroll

      Or maybe they delete known liars.

      September 17, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • george

      Is every thing a lie in the news? propaganda this false flag that.. You are a clown.

      September 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
  8. allenwoll

    What SEEMS apparent is that the Navy had an irresponsibly LOW LEVEL of security in place at the Yard. . NO ONE - sane, disturbed or crazy - should have been able to bring any weapon unannounced into that MILITARY facility, PERIOD.
    The issue of gun control - one way or the other - is utterly and entirely IRRELEVANT to this particular event, seeing that it occurred at a what should have been a secure MILITARY installation.
    The heads needing to roll here are all NAVY HEADS ! !

    September 17, 2013 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Maggie

      No heads among the Admirals will be used as bowling balls. Those guys are the untouchables. Look at Captains, Commanders, Lt. Commanders and such.

      September 17, 2013 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • emskadittle

      and you all the sequester doesn't effect us

      September 17, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
  9. saywhat

    Who has the money for all this @Charlie?

    September 17, 2013 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
  10. saywhat

    Got to perpetuate wars ya' know.
    trillions and counting on Iraq & Afghan disasters, $600 b attacking Libya, 13-16 billion a year to feed Israel war machinery, a billion plus to Egypt military & so on.

    September 17, 2013 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  11. mario

    the guy had stuff wrong with him .and he still can get a gun something is going on .I don't know whats going on .but something is .they are not going to be happy till all guns are takeing away from us .im sorry for all them that lost there lives but my guns are staying with me

    September 17, 2013 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Amanda

      Nobody is taking your guns away. That has never been part of the talks. Please stop with the theatrics.

      September 17, 2013 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
  12. tensionfilter

    The ever changing script is present... feed the media that an AR-15 was used... When it turns out it was just a shotgun then feed the media about how a background check failed. So that they could push their agenda of even more background checks... and so on...They even got the feed wrong name of shooter down pat this time like with the Sandy Hook shooter.

    September 17, 2013 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • stopcomplaining

      When people like you want instant information before the investigation is complete, or even barely begun, this is going to happen. It clearly states that an AR-15 wasn't used, but that didn't stop your complaint, did it?

      September 17, 2013 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Brandon

    I fully support our right to bear arms but right the prior history of violence and mental illness this type of person should not be able to legally purchase a firearm of any kind.

    September 17, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sergi Kent

      You are right. Mentally unstable people should not have access to guns. Now, how do you do that? In 20-20 hindsight this guy was a dangerous nut job. Yet in reality he passed a government security clearance, and an FBI NICs background check to enable him to follow Joe Biden's recommendation to "get a shot gun" Which of the latest gun control measures would have stopped this? I can't think of one.

      September 17, 2013 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Amanda

    For your HOME, mental one. Taking things out of context makes you look like a loony drunken pirate.

    September 17, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Patrick

    Guns are bad. Make pizza not guns.

    September 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • cwiz

      Guns are only as bad as the people that use them. You could kill a person with a bow and arrow if you really wanted to be a lunatic. I understand you were trying to make a joke, but some people will feed off your statement. The point is that a gun sitting there on the ground isn't going to hurt anyone. It takes a person to aim and pull the trigger before it even becomes a possible threat. And it takes a very small percentage of a civilized society to abuse the privilege of gun ownership to use it against innocent people.

      September 17, 2013 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
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